Ziggy Stardust
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This one is complicated, because it's a video inside a link.
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Also: They lied to a FISA court to spy on Trump who was paving the way to peace!
Jan. 6th commission
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This one is complicated, because it's a video inside a link.
Link
Also: They lied to a FISA court to spy on Trump who was paving the way to peace!
Berzerker
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What does it illustrate if it didn't happen? The committee knew about this woman and her story but never asked the actual witnesses. What does that illustrate? Your guy Jamie Raskin was asked about that and he bobbed and weaved and said agents are allowed to testify if they want. Why didn't the committee ask them to testify?
https://www.mediaite.com/news/secre...eer-limo-on-jan-6-despite-hutchinson-account/
“A source close to the Secret Service tells me both Bobby Engel, the lead agent, and the presidential limousine/SUV driver are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel,” tweeted NBC News Chief White House Correspondent Peter Alexander on Tuesday."
Stay tuned...
Darn, Trump escapes yet again!
I need to wait 24 hours before jumping on the latest bombshell.
This transcript, from Trump calling in on Bartiromo's FoxNews show in July of '21, is pretty interesting once one is aware of what Trump *did* clearly know on Jan 6th.
It's the source of that "they were full of love" quote that's made the rounds, and also quoting Trump, "There were no guns whatsoever."
It's the source of that "they were full of love" quote that's made the rounds, and also quoting Trump, "There were no guns whatsoever."
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Not quite. She isn't lying, she's playing a part. The 1/6 Commission is a work of fiction - "Based on a True Story" is what the credits should read. It is another step in the merger of showbiz and politics. It is tailored for the sophisticated taste of Democrats (grownups!), unlike that déclassé pro wrestling stuff of the previous administration.
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I agree with the idea that it is a show, in that it is a compilation of chosen testimony to present a narrative. I also agree it is ridiculous that it is necessary at all. The citizenry should be paying enough attention that they already know the GOP is a nightmare full of anti-human rights, anti-civil rights, pro police state monster types and is super friendly to the idea of authoritarian regimes (despite all their protests to the contrary). Thus, the idea that Trump did a stupid coup and was mad that his protectors would not let him lead it should not be shocking and should not require a set of shows to demonstrate it. The testimony in text should suffice, but here we are, and it is hard to argue that the attention span of Americans currently doesn't require nonsense like this horsehocky show.
I'll stay tuned if the anonymously sourced claim actually upgrades to testimony under oath. It is kind of not believable that Trump got his tiny hands around the wheel. Given the recent Rudy G. standard though, the baseline for assault is pretty low. I'm sure George Z. would have been justified in shooting Trump for whatever he attempted.
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Should I change the channel from the Durham Investigation into the deep state meant to unseat Trump the previous four years?
Lexicus
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Close but not quite on the mark. It is a Watergate reenactment.
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my C-SPAN has extended, long form, hearings. If anybody is only watching the 15 minute clips, that's because they want to watch the 15 minute clips. At that point, we realize why they were produced
The current show is terrible compared to the Apprentice. At least on that show, the contestants accepted their loss without so much violent bellyaching.
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Going to the Capitol would have been the right choice for Trump, whether he intended to lead his insurrection or masterfully quell a riot. Going to ground
is always a mistake. A man who can't control his own security detail is not much of an authoritarian.
You're showing your age (lack thereof).
is always a mistake. A man who can't control his own security detail is not much of an authoritarian.
You're showing your age (lack thereof).
This much I agree with, in the sense of "not a very good authoritarian".
Lexicus
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Pretending this is Watergate part 2 is like crack and porn combined to these boomers.
As an aside, I've started agreeing with the Christians who believe that Trump was given to them by God. I then allude to King Saul, and Trump being the punishment for their fallen faith
https://www.businessinsider.com/don...t-service-cassidy-hutchinson-january-6-2022-6
Trump won't let this nonsense about his size and agility stand. By the end of the day, he will be bragging about his beautiful and perfect grabbing of the wheel like it was an intimate portion of the anatomy of a super model.
Did she not say tried to grab rather than actually grabbed the steering wheel?
Lexicus
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Been thinking about this a bit more...I think you're certainly right that this will be inspiring to some of his supporters. But I think he'll keep denying it regardless. Why? Because it shows him in a bad way. A big part of the alt-right brand more generally and the Trump political brand more specifically is the "I was just joking, unlike you drama queens I don't care about any of this". This incident shows Trump in a bad light from that perspective - it shows him undignified, actually throwing a tantrum because he cared about/wanted something. Even though that thing was what all these nazi freaks want, their brand operates on pretending they don't really want or care about anything so my guess is Trump continues to deny that this ever happened.
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