zulu9812
The Newbie Nightmare
Mescalhead said:
I implied nothing of the sort, Read my statement again.
Juvenile Death Penalty in the U.S. Struck Down
- Thread starter Damnyankee
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I implied nothing of the sort, Read my statement again.
~Corsair#01~
Deity
A dark day for justice.
Can we wait 'til they're 18, then shoot them?
Can we wait 'til they're 18, then shoot them?
nonconformist
Miserable
Tis a step in the right direction, but not what I'd like seen. The state is supposed to be superior to criminals, though, I suppose, it never has been.
amadeus
Serenity now
They overturned Roe vs. Wade?anarres said:
GrandAdmiral
Deity
And I thought we would only become less civilized. A good day.
Cheetah
Deity
That is, if you have to think of abortion as state sponsored murders of minors, another cathegory of state sponsored murders of minors. Though you know that. It would be a lot more interesting to hear your thoughts of capital punnishment of minors instead (though I think I know what stand you've taken on that).rmsharpe said:They overturned Roe vs. Wade?
Personally, I think this is a good ruling. Let's hope you have abandoned capital punnishment alltogether in another 100 years.
cgannon64
BOB DYLAN'S ROCKIN OUT!
rmsharpe said:They overturned Roe vs. Wade?
That raises a question in my mind. If someone is too poor to pay for an abortion, does the state pay for it?
Cheetah
Deity
Not unless the fetus has commited murder one. 
The Last Conformist
Irresistibly Attractive
Would people stop using the word "murder" for either abortion or capital punishment?
(Incidentally, do the unborn legally count as "minors"?)
(Incidentally, do the unborn legally count as "minors"?)
Damnyankee
Honest Abe
rmsharpe said:They overturned Roe vs. Wade?
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Mescalhead
Vincebus Eruptum
Considering that the deliquent will not change in psychological disposition upon reaching adulthood, I see no reason to let them out to kill agian, and then execute them. It'd simply be better to snuff them now. If a juvenile kills and the court deems him otherwise fit for execution, I can't imagine him coming around and being subject to a conscience that takes the effects of murder on others and himself into consideration.zulu9812 said:
This is all from the supposition that the crime would have to be pretty egregious from the start for a judge to consider such a sentence. Kids can be completely rotten as well. Rotten adults don't just get that way at 18.
Mescalhead
Vincebus Eruptum
The Last Conformist said:
No they won't. Such semantics are used when arguments rely more on emotion than reason. Not to say that is necessarily a bad thing in certain cases.
zulu9812
The Newbie Nightmare
Mescalhead said:
Why would he be let out?
Perfection
The Great Head.
Damn, I shoulda killed someone while I still had the chance.
Mescalhead
Vincebus Eruptum
zulu9812 said:
When someone is incarcerated as a juvenile their sentences are much shorter than adults. Often times they get out in their mid to late twenties after stewing in prison and learning new "trades" in debauchery and criminality.
Gif Warrior
Questor
I like the outcome but not the decision. I dont support the death penalty but I dont think the Supreme Court should have ruled on it. The legeslature should have passed the law and the Supreme Court rule on the law.
Sarevok
Civ3 Scenario Creator
Im 9 months away form being 18.zulu9812 said:
Im considered to be a very mature person now, but what you are saying is that I am not rational enough to understand my actions. Do I suddenly become rational when that day comes?
Its comments like that that make me think that it is heavily unfair to generalize teens as irrational, ignorant people. Though that is 80 to 90% true, what about the other 10%?
