Liberating a CS only gets you 60 influence!?

[Juanholio]

Just playing a game where I liberated a CS. Surely it's worth more than 60 points of influence?! I mean, losing ally status within a turn of setting them free of their oppressors seems bit lame to me.

I'd have thought 90 points would be a minimum for this.

 

[NotSure]

I noticed this too. I liberated one that was conquered before I ever had a chance to meet it. When I lost the alliance the very next turn I thought it had something to do with me not meeting them before they were conquered. I never really took note of how much influence this used to provide, but it seems like it used to be more. 60 is pretty weak.

 

[Juanholio]

I noticed this too. I liberated one that was conquered before I ever had a chance to meet it. When I lost the alliance the very next turn I thought it had something to do with me not meeting them before they were conquered. I never really took note of how much influence this used to provide, but it seems like it used to be more. 60 is pretty weak.

I hadn't noticed it before because I'd only liberated CSs that I was allied to before the war in question. This time I'd had nothing to do with them, but still I would have though it'd be worth more than 60 (bare minimum ally)?! It seems very weak.

 

[Heerlo]

On vanilla I once liberated a city state, and I think I was allies with it for ages after that.I don't remember checking how much influence it got me, but it stayed my ally for a while.

 

[Tachii]

I thought it was 100 or something. At least pre-Fall patch.

 

[Chomes99]

I havent confirmed this, but I was pretty sure it was more than 60. or maybe it is only 60 for standard paced games, I always play epic or marathon, so maybe that increases it to 90 or 180

 

[Pook]

I thought it was 100 or something. At least pre-Fall patch.

I thought it was even higher, at 150.

The current 60 hardly seems a just reward for putting a City-State back on the map.

 

[Nukuler]

I was under the impression that a liberated CS will automatically give you a UN vote, even if you don't maintain an alliance with them. Am I wrong?

 

[Sherlock]

Liberating a CS should make them ALLIES FOR LIFE.

PERIOD.

 

[compwiz1202]

You would think the speed wouldn't affect the + for liberating since it happens in an instant. You should just lose influence slower in a slower game.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

I was under the impression that a liberated CS will automatically give you a UN vote, even if you don't maintain an alliance with them. Am I wrong?

True, so in theory, unless you need their resouces, keeping them as allies is uneccessary.

 

[Jatta Pake]

Liberating a CS should make them ALLIES FOR LIFE.

PERIOD.

France would like to point out that your proposal is historically inaccurate.

 

[azzaman333]

I thought it was 120? Did you have terrible relations with the CS before it died? Maybe that's the problem?

 

[Olleus]

The 60 does stack though with multiple liberations. Had a war with the ottomans where every turn my city would liberate Sidon, and every turn their army would take it back. After 5 turns of going back and forth I finally bombarded their army to death and had 300+ influence with Sidon.

 

[Juanholio]

I thought it was 120? Did you have terrible relations with the CS before it died? Maybe that's the problem?

I can't quite remember now, but I'm fairly certain that the level was neutral before they were captured. Will look out for this again.

 

[Gucumatz]

Pretty sure its more than 60
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Also Stealth Bombers have been nerfed since the Fall Patch. Played a MP game yesterday that went to a 3 way nuke/stealth bomber war - and stealth bombers actually weren't end all end all.

They also fixed anti aircraft units, they will now defend themselves from air units. Good for the developers!

 

[Tabarnak]

Not sure but i think that it depends of type of mood of cs, i.e. hostile(60), irrationnal, normal(90?), friendly(120?).

 

[Dr. D]

I thought it was even higher, at 150.

It definitely used to be 150. Only recently have I seen the 60 influence, and I don't remember anything listed in the patch regarding liberation... this dramatic change doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Juanholio]

It definitely used to be 150. Only recently have I seen the 60 influence, and I don't remember anything listed in the patch regarding liberation... this dramatic change doesn't make sense to me.

Could it, perhaps, be due to era? I remember this happening fairly early in the game late classical / early middle ages.

 

[ense7en]

I've had it only be 60 numerous times in my more recent games, which i think is ridiculous.

If you aren't going for a UN vote, it's still nice to keep them as allies, and to have to start throwing gold and them right after liberating them just to keep them as allies is just silly.