Hi everyone!
I have a big interest for this mod , and with this interest, there is also requests Here is a big list of things that I wish to see in future update and I would like to have your thoughts on each of those subjects.
First of all, my biggest wish is to have to merge this mod with Varietas Delectat. First, we could only use the vanilla civs set and tag the new civ to actual set (example, Mexico to Aztec). Some of the civs planned for 4.0 (like Cuba) are already made for this mod. After, we may ask avain if he want to create new styles for new civilizations. I know that there is already some units made that would work for new civ style. If he’s too busy to dig the forum to create new art style for new civ, maybe someone else can take care of it.
It was my biggest wish, but not the only one. Here are some Leaders that I would like to get included. Sometimes, I put some quotes of the leaders to help to make the diplo dialogue if he finally got included.
Those who, I think, are already planned (but I mention just in case):
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7942 King of Canada
“It is what we prevent, rather than what we do that counts most in Government.”
“If some countries have too much history, we have too much geography.”
“Far more has been accomplished for the welfare and progress of mankind by preventing bad actions than by doing good ones.”
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7870 Lázaro Cárdenas, Mexico
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=257884 Hidalgo, Mexico
“Action must be taken at once! There is no time to be lost.”
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7784 Medecis, Italy
“How beautiful is youth, that is always slipping away! Whoever wants to be happy, let him be so: of tomorrow there's no knowing”
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=257597 Trudeau
“Well, just watch me.”
“Let us overthrow the totems, break the taboos. Or better, let us consider them cancelled. Coldly, let us be intelligent.”
Would be nice to also add some of theese
“If you don't stop that, I'll kick you right in the ass.”
“Mangez de la merde.”
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7763 Charles Quint for HRE and maybe also Spain
“In my realm, the sun never sets.”
“I see that luck resembles women: it prefers a young king than an old emperor.”
“Iron hand in a velvet glove.”
“There are those who say that I wish to rule the world, but both my thoughts and my deeds demonstrate the contrary.”
Those that I would really like to see because they are good looking , well made(that means different from any vanilla leaders head) and important leaders
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=257378 Collins, Irish second leader
“When you have sweated, toiled, had mad dreams, hopeless nightmares, you find yourself in London's streets, cold and dank in the night air. Think - what have I got for Ireland? Something which she has wanted these past seven hundred years. Will anyone be satisfied at the bargain? Will anyone? I tell you this; early this morning I signed my death warrant. I thought at the time how odd, how ridiculous — a bullet may just as well have done the job five years ago.”
Tamerlan (as a Mongols? Or other ???): http://www.civfanatics.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=6918
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=2820 (Uther as a Welsh Leader, Calgalus of the (??..Picts), Hector of Troy and Amanishabheto of Nubia (this one look pretty much like her base model however)) would have to fix the head proportion
For Calgalus:
“To plunder, to slaughter, to steal, these things they misname empire; and where they make a wilderness, they call it peace.”
For Hector (nothing really historial here, only some quote from the Troy movie )
“You come here uninvited. Go back to your ships and go home.”
“Fight me!”
“All my life I've lived by a code and the code is simple: honor the gods, love your woman and defend your country”
Massinisa (Numidia?): http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=3311
Replace the actual Arpad (the texture are to plain) by this Arpad : http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=4633
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=4659 Joan of Arc or Sigrid the Haughty (with a hair recolor that I would be glad to make) or an other medieval female leader, have you an idea ?
For JoA:
“Children say that people are hung sometimes for speaking the truth.”
“I came from God. There is nothing more for me to do here! Send me back to God, from Whom I came!”
I am not afraid… I was born to do this.
“I fear nothing, except treason.”
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6744 Ivan the terrible of Russia or other if you find him a new place
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=5927
Franco of Spain
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7360 I know I may have some favoritism for this one, but personally, I think she’s the best Dido (she’s the one that look the less like her base model because she had some model modification)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7530 George I of Greece
And
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7636 Leonidas, Greece
“Molon Labe!” or “Come and get them!”
“If you knew what is good in life, you would abstain from wishing for foreign things”
From the movie 300 (could be funny to have quote from the film)
“It is an honor to have lived at yours”
“Madness...? THIS... IS... SPARTA!”
“by Spartan law we will stand and fight... and die.”
“For tonight, we dine in hell!”
“Unless I miss my guess, we're in for one wild night.”
For those two, my plan would be to split Macedonia and Greece into two civ with Pericles, George I and Leonidas leading Greece and Alexander and Philippe leading Macedonia. We can even cut the Greece in two faction (like the city states division during Peloponnesian war, but this cut is maybe to much ? what do you think ?) I really think Greece and Macedonia should be two different civ (and the Macedonia UU is already present in the lost unit of vanilla, or Warlords scenario)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7914 Harald as an other Viking Leader, if you can’t find him a better place??
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7825 Robert the Bruce. The beard look strange, so maybe you want to keep the one you presently using. Well, the best would be a mix of both. You only copy your tartan fabric on him and retexture the head area and it can give a nice result. I may help for this if you want.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7482 Cardinal Richelieu. New model, new anim ...
« If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged.”
“To mislead a rival, deception is permissable; one may use all means against his enemies”
“Deception is the knowledge of kings”
“Reason must be the universal rule and guide; all things must be done according to reason without allowing oneself to be swayed by emotion.”
“War is one of the scourges with which it has pleased God to afflict men”
Those that I would really like to see because they are good looking or well made (that means different from any vanilla leaders head) or important leaders
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6527 Lenin, still look like Churchill, but is still well made
“Violence is, of course, alien to our ideals”
“What we prize most is peace and an opportunity to devote all our efforts to restoring our economy.”
“It is true that liberty is precious—so precious that it must be rationed.”
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6600 Wilhelmina of Netherlands, look a lot like Elizabeth but it’s a nice leader.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6717 Theodra, look a bit like Izzy
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6732 Vlad III Drakula for Romania. The leader himself is interesting to have, and if we change the crown (maybe add the crown of my old Charlemagne LH), it will look different than Justinan
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6807 Selim, could be usefull, maybe.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6808 Look much like Napoleon so if you prefer the one that you already have it’s fine but I just want to show you this one. Personally, I prefer this one, but we have a lot of leaders based on Napoleon
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7333 Ukraine Victor Yushchenko
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7459 Abbas I, Maybe for an other Persian Leader
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7666 Josip Broz Tito , Yugoslavia. It look like Degaule, but its still a nice LH
Those that I would really like to see in game because they are really well made, but the leader himself do not necessarily have his place in the mod.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7596 Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ,The leader head is really well made (my favorite), however, I don’t know if it have a place. He would lead wich civ ?
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7840 Kim Jong Il. Would be fun to have him as a leader of Korea It make me think of team America each time I see it
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7926 Saddam Hussein ,Well made LH but, I don’t know if it has a place
Unidentified Leader that can fill gaps, or be recycled:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=5365 This Saruman is still nice, have you an Idea of a leader that could look like him ?
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6806 Nice leaderhead, it could surely fill a gap somewhere
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=193741 It still look good, maybe this can be recycled, do you have an idea?
We may also use Sid Meier LH (Like they did in Road to War) for a modern leader. It’s a model that we don’t use in the mod.
I would like to know your feelings about all of them ,I hope I'm not to Harassing with all this
I have a big interest for this mod , and with this interest, there is also requests Here is a big list of things that I wish to see in future update and I would like to have your thoughts on each of those subjects.
First of all, my biggest wish is to have to merge this mod with Varietas Delectat. First, we could only use the vanilla civs set and tag the new civ to actual set (example, Mexico to Aztec). Some of the civs planned for 4.0 (like Cuba) are already made for this mod. After, we may ask avain if he want to create new styles for new civilizations. I know that there is already some units made that would work for new civ style. If he’s too busy to dig the forum to create new art style for new civ, maybe someone else can take care of it.
It was my biggest wish, but not the only one. Here are some Leaders that I would like to get included. Sometimes, I put some quotes of the leaders to help to make the diplo dialogue if he finally got included.
Those who, I think, are already planned (but I mention just in case):
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7942 King of Canada
“It is what we prevent, rather than what we do that counts most in Government.”
“If some countries have too much history, we have too much geography.”
“Far more has been accomplished for the welfare and progress of mankind by preventing bad actions than by doing good ones.”
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7870 Lázaro Cárdenas, Mexico
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=257884 Hidalgo, Mexico
“Action must be taken at once! There is no time to be lost.”
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7784 Medecis, Italy
“How beautiful is youth, that is always slipping away! Whoever wants to be happy, let him be so: of tomorrow there's no knowing”
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=257597 Trudeau
“Well, just watch me.”
“Let us overthrow the totems, break the taboos. Or better, let us consider them cancelled. Coldly, let us be intelligent.”
Would be nice to also add some of theese
“If you don't stop that, I'll kick you right in the ass.”
“Mangez de la merde.”
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7763 Charles Quint for HRE and maybe also Spain
“In my realm, the sun never sets.”
“I see that luck resembles women: it prefers a young king than an old emperor.”
“Iron hand in a velvet glove.”
“There are those who say that I wish to rule the world, but both my thoughts and my deeds demonstrate the contrary.”
Those that I would really like to see because they are good looking , well made(that means different from any vanilla leaders head) and important leaders
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=257378 Collins, Irish second leader
“When you have sweated, toiled, had mad dreams, hopeless nightmares, you find yourself in London's streets, cold and dank in the night air. Think - what have I got for Ireland? Something which she has wanted these past seven hundred years. Will anyone be satisfied at the bargain? Will anyone? I tell you this; early this morning I signed my death warrant. I thought at the time how odd, how ridiculous — a bullet may just as well have done the job five years ago.”
Tamerlan (as a Mongols? Or other ???): http://www.civfanatics.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=6918
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=2820 (Uther as a Welsh Leader, Calgalus of the (??..Picts), Hector of Troy and Amanishabheto of Nubia (this one look pretty much like her base model however)) would have to fix the head proportion
For Calgalus:
“To plunder, to slaughter, to steal, these things they misname empire; and where they make a wilderness, they call it peace.”
For Hector (nothing really historial here, only some quote from the Troy movie )
“You come here uninvited. Go back to your ships and go home.”
“Fight me!”
“All my life I've lived by a code and the code is simple: honor the gods, love your woman and defend your country”
Massinisa (Numidia?): http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=3311
Replace the actual Arpad (the texture are to plain) by this Arpad : http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=4633
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=4659 Joan of Arc or Sigrid the Haughty (with a hair recolor that I would be glad to make) or an other medieval female leader, have you an idea ?
For JoA:
“Children say that people are hung sometimes for speaking the truth.”
“I came from God. There is nothing more for me to do here! Send me back to God, from Whom I came!”
I am not afraid… I was born to do this.
“I fear nothing, except treason.”
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6744 Ivan the terrible of Russia or other if you find him a new place
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=5927
Franco of Spain
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7360 I know I may have some favoritism for this one, but personally, I think she’s the best Dido (she’s the one that look the less like her base model because she had some model modification)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7530 George I of Greece
And
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7636 Leonidas, Greece
“Molon Labe!” or “Come and get them!”
“If you knew what is good in life, you would abstain from wishing for foreign things”
From the movie 300 (could be funny to have quote from the film)
“It is an honor to have lived at yours”
“Madness...? THIS... IS... SPARTA!”
“by Spartan law we will stand and fight... and die.”
“For tonight, we dine in hell!”
“Unless I miss my guess, we're in for one wild night.”
For those two, my plan would be to split Macedonia and Greece into two civ with Pericles, George I and Leonidas leading Greece and Alexander and Philippe leading Macedonia. We can even cut the Greece in two faction (like the city states division during Peloponnesian war, but this cut is maybe to much ? what do you think ?) I really think Greece and Macedonia should be two different civ (and the Macedonia UU is already present in the lost unit of vanilla, or Warlords scenario)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7914 Harald as an other Viking Leader, if you can’t find him a better place??
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7825 Robert the Bruce. The beard look strange, so maybe you want to keep the one you presently using. Well, the best would be a mix of both. You only copy your tartan fabric on him and retexture the head area and it can give a nice result. I may help for this if you want.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7482 Cardinal Richelieu. New model, new anim ...
« If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged.”
“To mislead a rival, deception is permissable; one may use all means against his enemies”
“Deception is the knowledge of kings”
“Reason must be the universal rule and guide; all things must be done according to reason without allowing oneself to be swayed by emotion.”
“War is one of the scourges with which it has pleased God to afflict men”
Those that I would really like to see because they are good looking or well made (that means different from any vanilla leaders head) or important leaders
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6527 Lenin, still look like Churchill, but is still well made
“Violence is, of course, alien to our ideals”
“What we prize most is peace and an opportunity to devote all our efforts to restoring our economy.”
“It is true that liberty is precious—so precious that it must be rationed.”
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6600 Wilhelmina of Netherlands, look a lot like Elizabeth but it’s a nice leader.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6717 Theodra, look a bit like Izzy
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6732 Vlad III Drakula for Romania. The leader himself is interesting to have, and if we change the crown (maybe add the crown of my old Charlemagne LH), it will look different than Justinan
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6807 Selim, could be usefull, maybe.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6808 Look much like Napoleon so if you prefer the one that you already have it’s fine but I just want to show you this one. Personally, I prefer this one, but we have a lot of leaders based on Napoleon
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7333 Ukraine Victor Yushchenko
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7459 Abbas I, Maybe for an other Persian Leader
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7666 Josip Broz Tito , Yugoslavia. It look like Degaule, but its still a nice LH
Those that I would really like to see in game because they are really well made, but the leader himself do not necessarily have his place in the mod.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7596 Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ,The leader head is really well made (my favorite), however, I don’t know if it have a place. He would lead wich civ ?
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7840 Kim Jong Il. Would be fun to have him as a leader of Korea It make me think of team America each time I see it
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7926 Saddam Hussein ,Well made LH but, I don’t know if it has a place
Unidentified Leader that can fill gaps, or be recycled:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=5365 This Saruman is still nice, have you an Idea of a leader that could look like him ?
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6806 Nice leaderhead, it could surely fill a gap somewhere
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=193741 It still look good, maybe this can be recycled, do you have an idea?
We may also use Sid Meier LH (Like they did in Road to War) for a modern leader. It’s a model that we don’t use in the mod.
I would like to know your feelings about all of them ,I hope I'm not to Harassing with all this