BismarckTheBarb
Chieftain
- Joined
- Nov 19, 2015
- Messages
- 8
I have recently played a number of games where I tried to win Civ V after deleting the initial settler as a variation to standard play. It is easy to win with some leaders, but pretty hard with most. I have listed my findings regarding this in the list below, ranked after simplicity to succeed. Settings are Pangea standard everything with no reroll until win is deemed impossible, and wins are played through to the end.
1. Atila - game is straightforward if one just can find an upgrade ruin. I won on Deity with this guy.
2. Bismarck - usually ends up in a more varied game than with Atila with interesting compositions of barbs. My best win is on Immortal.
3. Maria Theresa - I do not remember these games well, but I have noted a win on King. I was probably befriending a city state and continued from there. Games were probably pretty boring since they are forgotten.
4. Pocatello - now winning with this guy is hard to pull off but can offer real fun. My strategy is to promote the inital Pathfinder to Survival III (giving it ultra defense), find an upgrade ruin (this requires skill to guess where the left one may be), and go to war with a one-man army that can take down a small enemy army and an expo on its own after some extra promotions. Befriend a militaristic city state and one is good to go. My best win is on Prince.
5. Darius - usually results in a really boring game where I look for an upgrade ruin and then terrorize a weak city state (prevent growth) until the resulting Immortal is almost maxed out on promotions. Then I time the final attack with a golden age, a close promotion (the healing is needed) and preferably take help from a barb strolling in from a saved camp on the other side of the city. I almost made it on Prince with this strategy, but the resulting one-man army was so weak that it could not prevent the neighbours from annecting my mini empire. Only true win is on Warlord.
Note that there are two bugs that one needs to be aware of to play the games above.
i) Obtaining a pantheon belief before settling crashes the game.
ii) No science progress is recorded until one settles an own city.
In principle it should be possible to win similarly with any leader, but then one probably needs increadible timing to steal a city during other's wars or take help from an allied city state. However this just sounds too hard!
Cheers,
-B
1. Atila - game is straightforward if one just can find an upgrade ruin. I won on Deity with this guy.
2. Bismarck - usually ends up in a more varied game than with Atila with interesting compositions of barbs. My best win is on Immortal.
3. Maria Theresa - I do not remember these games well, but I have noted a win on King. I was probably befriending a city state and continued from there. Games were probably pretty boring since they are forgotten.
4. Pocatello - now winning with this guy is hard to pull off but can offer real fun. My strategy is to promote the inital Pathfinder to Survival III (giving it ultra defense), find an upgrade ruin (this requires skill to guess where the left one may be), and go to war with a one-man army that can take down a small enemy army and an expo on its own after some extra promotions. Befriend a militaristic city state and one is good to go. My best win is on Prince.
5. Darius - usually results in a really boring game where I look for an upgrade ruin and then terrorize a weak city state (prevent growth) until the resulting Immortal is almost maxed out on promotions. Then I time the final attack with a golden age, a close promotion (the healing is needed) and preferably take help from a barb strolling in from a saved camp on the other side of the city. I almost made it on Prince with this strategy, but the resulting one-man army was so weak that it could not prevent the neighbours from annecting my mini empire. Only true win is on Warlord.
Note that there are two bugs that one needs to be aware of to play the games above.
i) Obtaining a pantheon belief before settling crashes the game.
ii) No science progress is recorded until one settles an own city.
In principle it should be possible to win similarly with any leader, but then one probably needs increadible timing to steal a city during other's wars or take help from an allied city state. However this just sounds too hard!
Cheers,
-B