albie_123
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Nah, we've got a whole forum for that.ok so this thread is about knowing better than the devs. got it
Nah, we've got a whole forum for that.ok so this thread is about knowing better than the devs. got it
So it breaks a tradition of fairness and neutrality? Let me give two examples which can be seen just as grim if you know a lot about the ideas and history behind them (which I'm sorry but I can't assume given your comment on the Kremlin).
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei (Civ4 - scientific theory)
"If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst at once into the sky, that would be like the splendor of the Mighty One... I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds." J. Robert Oppenheimer (Civ 4-5 - Fission)
Both of those have a delicately put but still hery heavy bias against either religion's denial towards intellectual development, or the possible (or sole) destructive use of technological advancements. Plus they are quotes from people who had those same opinions.
Wow, you're serious.i'm not talking about game mechanics
The Kremlin was built before the Soviet Era.
Yep, I agree, as long as we're defining "neutral" as "equally complimentary of whatever has been built/discovered/followed". Actual neutrality is the opposite of what we're talking about; there's nothing neutral about championing everything equally. "Equal" is probably better here.You are right, however I did not bring up the examples to show ones which take a stand against whatever they are attached to, I provided them because the OP states that the loss of neutrality is vexing and incosistent with the developers' intentions this far. I wanted to show that there has never been total neutrality in the first place, so that statement is false.
And again, you've spectacularly missed the point. Intentionally so, I begin to feel. (Sorry all; I'm done with the troll-baiting.)Cakes said:again, i'm not talking about game mechanics.
My personal opinion is that the Brandenburg Gate should have shifted over to take over the Prora's spot and then include West Point as a wonder to take over the Brandenburg Gates bonuses. I know the Brandenburg gate isn't a perfect fit for a happiness wonder but the Brandenburg gate is a cultural monument and the wonders bonuses are based on the number of social policies so its not completely out of place.
Yes, but the game uses it as a symbol of communism by making it exclusive to the order branch.
The quote for the Kremlin is mostly positive and doesn't appear to be shaming the people who built it, unlike Prora.
And again, you've spectacularly missed the point. Intentionally so, I begin to feel. (Sorry all; I'm done with the troll-baiting.)
This is what you said before:
Carefully note the mistake you made, and carefully realise that whatever mechanics they added to Brave New World, the Kremlin has been in the game since before it was locked to the order tree. Yes, a lot of people associate the Kremlin with the Soviet Union, but contrary to what you initially said, it was not built by them.
no, the point of this thread is not about game mechanics. the prora quote is not about game mechanics. if i say that he is correcting the devs on their own product, it's obvious i'm not talking about game mechanics. game mechanics literally have nothing to do with this topic but the only way you find fault with my post is by bringing up game mechanics. he thinks he knows better about the devs at their own product, which in this context refers to the choice of quote and not GAME MECHANICS. you're missing my point in that if there is consistency with the quotes in the first place then why would you assume that the devs have not considered their quote for prora more closely? do you actually have anything to say along this line of argument, or do you want to bring up game mechanics again?
You can't mention God online, it's offensive.
Because there is NOTHING wrong or unusual with thinking you know better than the devs.
Alright good point. But the argument isn't invalidated by the Kremlin's absence.
You can't mention God online, it's offensive.
no, the point of this thread is not about game mechanics. the prora quote is not about game mechanics. if i say that he is correcting the devs on their own product, it's obvious i'm not talking about game mechanics. game mechanics literally have nothing to do with this topic but the only way you find fault with my post is by bringing up game mechanics. he thinks he knows better about the devs at their own product, which in this context refers to the choice of quote and not GAME MECHANICS. you're missing my point in that if there is consistency with the quotes in the first place then why would you assume that the devs have not considered their quote for prora more closely? do you actually have anything to say along this line of argument, or do you want to bring up game mechanics again?