Hey guys again, remember me?
Well anyway i love your mod now that i can play it
I really enjoy playing 1939 scenario.
BUT you seriously need to add Finland in the 1939 scenario, you dont even need to modify map much, only put Finland in and these four cities: Helsinki(capital), Viipuri(city where was lots of fighting and only city which Russia conquert from Finland, later on in continuation war Finland tooked it back but losed it again in the end of war, so historially it's really important) and last city Turku(old capital and got lots of people), Oulu (it should be right on north border of the map if you dont change it)
And im not saying this just because im finnish. Here's few points
why you need to add Finland in to this mod:
-Finland was famous about our amazing defending against massively bigger country (USSR)
-Germany provided Finland with guns and supply's and for that Finland let Germans use Lappi(north finland)-Norway road to move forces to vacation and stuff.
-There were quite many germans in Finland fighting in continuation war with our side against communist's.
-Finland WAS part of world war 2 so it should be in.
-So Finland was Germany's allie like Italy was earlier.
-It's not much of work for you, but it will put a lot historical depth in mod and hell a lot fun.
-A lot more i cant get on my mind now
Also about how many civs? - I would say 14-16 so it will still work in my comp
currently 1939 scenario works perfectly on my computer but if you put in 24 civs im sure i cant even play it. So please max 16
Most perfect number would be 15 [Germany,USA,France,USSR,Poland,Finland,Italy,Great Britain,Greece,Norway,Turkey,Spain,neutrals(sweden example), +2 more]
Okey and here's my few months ago posted post but i modfied it a bit, please read it.
WW2 Finland
Leader: Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim (Organized and Protective maybe)
Civics: These are hard to say but, probably: Fascism,Nationalization,Freedom of speech, Cooperation or something and defensive
Unique bulding: Sauna (+2 happiness +1 growth) (Women use to gave birth in sauna)
Major cities:
Helsinki,Turku,Oulu,Viipuri(now a day belongs to Russia but was Finland during this time) and more depending on map size
Ideas:
Here are Finland's land losses on wars:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...940.png/300px-Finnish_areas_ceded_in_1940.png
- 20% from infantry of USSR (example if USSR has 20 on start we have 4) It should be the way that USSR wouldnt smash Finland by sending small part of troops, but if they decided to really get Finland they would do it quite easy with 50% of their troops.
- Finland should have units like: 1-3 snipers on start in east border and 2-4 Tank hunters. (One finnish famous sniper told the public that he had killed 120 Soviets in war by the way )
- Finland should have only 2-4 light tanks at start. We had really few tanks on start of WW2, later on by help of Germany we had quite many tanks.
- On east border 2 antiaircraft cannons and in Capital 1.
- Later on Germany provided Finland with guns and equipments. To fight against USSR. Finland and Sweden should be friendly, or if Sweden isnt in then other civ in their spot) USSR and Finland should be in war at start and Germany and Finland pleased. Because we would have never joined or allied with communist. So USSR should kind of be furious or if the scenario starts before 1939 then annoyed of Finland.
- Finland tile in map should be snow but that's not hard to you to change on map. and USSR should be snow too, it would make A LOT sence since Germans failed to conquer Russia partly because of the cold weather, germans (had summer clothes and equipments)
- MAYBE: New tech on techtree Skiing. Finland would have it on start (national sport here), [would add 1 movement to infantry on snow, if its possible to make it like that]:
http://www.heritageaspen.org/images/soldier.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Finn_ski_troops.jpg
Intresting links (CHECK THESE OUT!!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_war
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War
List what troops would Finland have:
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Regular with rifle (strenght 16, movement 1, cost 120, only difference whitesnow uniform)
You could also make Ski troops, they would act like infantry II as the regular would be infantry I
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Machine gun (strenght 18, movement 1, cost 140, 50% vs gunpowdr units, would be like normal except white uniform)
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Sniper (strenght 15, Movement 1, cost 200, 100% vs infantry, white uniform)
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Gloster Gladiator fighter (UK sold 30 to finland, and South-Africa gave 29 to Finland for free) (strenght 12, movement 6, cost 120)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloster_Gladiator
Model:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showth...=1#post3820589
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Tankhunter with molotov cocktail and rifle (strenght 14, movement 1, cost 140, 100% vs. tanks, white uniform)
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Bristel Blenheim (strenght 15-20, movement 6, cost 140)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Blenheim
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Morande-Saulnier M.S. 406 (strenght 15-18, movement 6, cost 130)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morane-Saulnier_M.S.406
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Brewster F2A "Buffalo" (strenght 18,movement 7, cost 150)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster_Buffalo
-Messerschmitt Bf 109 (used in Finland 3/1943) (you have allready)
-Regular with Suomi-M-31 SMG(Jäger/machine gunner) (strenght 22, movement 1, cost 160) (like germany's SS, but white uniform and different weapon)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomi_M-31_SMG
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T-26 Tank (USSR and Finland both used these in winterwar)
(you have the model allready)
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Panzer IV (Finland bought 15 of these from Nazi-Germany during world war, thought had no time to use them in continutionwar. Thought i quess model would be allready done. And playing this mod maybe Finland-USSR war isnt over in 1944. Would be available in 1944)
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Sturmgeschütz III (StuG III) (Would be available in 1944. In 1944 the Finnish Army received 59 StuG III from Germany and used them against the Soviet Union. These destroyed at least 87 enemy tanks for a loss of only 8 StuG's)
(You have model of this allready)
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British Vickers E (Finland - used 33 tanks since 1938. They were armed initially with 37 mm Bofors anti-tank gun. They were used in the Winter War with the USSR) (you got this allready)
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Mines and bunkers and the other improvements
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Truck/s (movement 4, cost 120, for moving infantry) I think you have good enough truck in mod so just use the same.
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Submarines and warships(you can use same submarine as germany, and maybe some other ship [destroyer maybe?] )
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Tankhunter with Bazooka (Strenght 15, movement 1, cost 180, 1 first strike, 100% vs tanks. (Germany sell those to finland, white snow-uniform)
Germany should have these too!!
-Artillery (the current model: early artillery would work fine)
-Anti-aircraft
PS: You dont need to put all those planes in, only 2-3
And also there are gold in northed finland(Lappi) So put gold there.
Also small information about jägers background, early on Jägers were group of finnish soldiers who were trained on germany and went to partipicate(hard word
) world war I. Jägers fighted with Whites on Finland's civil war in 1918(1917 Finland independed) [other side was Red communist's] So they were kind of elite infantry. Now a days basic infantry of Finland's army is called Jäger.
