The Link Between Marijuana and Schizophrenia
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ParadigmShifter
Random Nonsense Generator
YOU were the person who suggested that socialists supporting the free market was odd, not me 
It's mostly anecdotal from me. I remember seeing statistics confirming my beliefs, but I don't remember them well enough to trust them. Yeah, people who're susceptible to schizophrenia are more likely to try drugs.
Keep in mind that they suffer from abnormal thinking, and so drugs can either help control the thinking or can create a short-term impression of controlled thinking. We all experiment with drugs (e.g., caffeine and alcohol) and we all perceive a benefit from using these drugs. Imagine if you perceived a greater benefit from these drugs than other people did: you'd be more likely to partake, and you might even be more likely to experiment.
The problem with schizophrenia is that the person becomes less competent at judging whether a perceived benefit from medication is an actual cognitive benefit. This is why self-medicating with nicotine or mj is pretty common.
Keep in mind that they suffer from abnormal thinking, and so drugs can either help control the thinking or can create a short-term impression of controlled thinking. We all experiment with drugs (e.g., caffeine and alcohol) and we all perceive a benefit from using these drugs. Imagine if you perceived a greater benefit from these drugs than other people did: you'd be more likely to partake, and you might even be more likely to experiment.
The problem with schizophrenia is that the person becomes less competent at judging whether a perceived benefit from medication is an actual cognitive benefit. This is why self-medicating with nicotine or mj is pretty common.
There are only three relevant facts when discussing legalizing marijuana:
Great numbers of people have been and will continue to use it regardless of the legality or health issues.
At the moment criminals make gobs of money from that use and kill hundreds to keep those profits.
Billions of dollars spent on the War on Drugs over 30 years have failed to change either of the above.
None of the rest of it matters at all. My solution:
Legalize it
Tax it mightily
Find more productive work for the DEA
Great numbers of people have been and will continue to use it regardless of the legality or health issues.
At the moment criminals make gobs of money from that use and kill hundreds to keep those profits.
Billions of dollars spent on the War on Drugs over 30 years have failed to change either of the above.
None of the rest of it matters at all. My solution:
Legalize it
Tax it mightily
Find more productive work for the DEA
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
You were the one who claimed it was hearsay, not me!
Emphasis mine.
You know, for someone who gets as irritated as you do about perceived misrepresentation, I think it would be evident to you that me saying what I did wasnt a claim or argument for hearsay.
Are you really trying to blame me for your apparent inability to find any proof to support your contentions until now?
No, but I do blame you for your silly accusations otherwise.
That doesnt discount what I linked earlier...in fact to a certain degree it verifies it.
You keep making this case, but the truth of the matter is that it's nothing more than proof by assertion from a position of blind ignorance of the subject. You're saying that something is impossible and when multiple people stand up to say that it is not only possible, but something they do on a semi-regular basis, you reply with essentially "nuh-uh!".
A regular smoker or drinker can tell the instant when 'totally sober' changes to 'starting to feel something'. One hit isn't going to do that (unless you want it to, in which case you hit a larger pipe). You can nurse a pipe for hours without feeling anything if you so choose, sticking your fingers in your ears and insisting you can't won't change that.
Tolerance for pot is different than tolerance for alcohol. A lightweight will drink 2 beers and be buzzing whereas a heavyweight can drink much more before feeling any effects. With pot, smoking a joint will get you high regardless of whether it's your first ever or if you've been smoking by the pound for decades. The tolerance (like the 'addiction') is more mental, you learn what to expect and learn to handle yourself better under the influence. You also learn to recognize the nuances of different strains better and can appreciate the differences more, this is the 'reverse tolerance' mentioned earlier, an experienced smoker will notice the subtleties of that type better than a rookie and will naturally then feel them more since they're paid proper attention.
Trust me, i hang out with botanists; the modern day "super-weed" you speak of is the excess we sell (legally) to medicinal centers so that we can keep the good stuff for ourselves. Even with all that potency, it takes some time to get started, and you can control that by rate of intake, just like all the other drugs.
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