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Transmission from Basil Exposition, British Intelligence: Austin Powers, we have received reports that Dr. Evil has thawed from suspended animation, and is working on a devious plot to destroy the world, by travelling back in time to the Ancient Era. To make matters worse, there are reports that Goldmember has esca……<transmission breaks off>

Sssss….kkkkrrrrkk…ssss…… Hello Austin Power-less :)mwaha:Mwahaha). As we speak, my henchman “Fat Bastard” is paying a visit to your Swinger’s Pad. I also want you to know that I have in my “impenetrable” (finger gesture for quotation marks) fortress the means of your ultimate destruction. I will bring the world to its feet at my knees <whispers heard off-screen> I will bring the world to its knees at my feet!

Once I locate those bluish-green glowing rocks that my “future self” promised were around here somewhere… then you are doomed. You will not stop me this time, because I know all your teleportation tricks… and have used them against you; this trick has enabled me to send my clone Mini-Me :pat:to steal your mojo. By now, your mojo should be in orbit around Alpha Centauri for perpetuity. :mwaha:Mwahaha!<transmission fades>

Basil (British “Intelligence”): Austin… we need you to save the world by going backwards in time to the Ancient age. From there you must develop the means to destroy Dr. Evil in his lair. Our secrets of teleporting have been compromised, so it would be highly advised to use them only with the utmost care. It would be far safer for you to find some way to drop from the skies to get in to his lair.

Austin: Did he say… so uncool!!!... I have to get my mojo back, baby!

Basil: Austin, Austin, please focus on what is important.

Austin: I am! :eek:
Basil: Calm, Austin. There are ways to get your mojo back-- you can simply build a spacecraft and fly it to Alpha Centauri. Or, you would develop an all new mojo if you garner enough support within the UN mojo-reso-lulu-lution. Or you can become a Legendary Swinger in three cities, and nobody will ever ask where that other mojo went. But… the MISSION… the most important thing is to raze Dr. Evil’s Lair to the ground, before his Preparation H can attract an hemorrh… an asteroid to destroy the world.

Austin: My Swinger’s Pad… that would not be groovy if Fat Bastard breaks my waterbed. All those etchings I use to lure the chicks could be ruined! The place is an icon of the hipsters. It’s practically Legendary. It…

Basil: Take it easy… British Intelligence will support you in espionage efforts to return your Pad into a Legendary place. Just don’t forget you have to find some way to defeat Dr. Evil.

Austin: Groovy! Will you put 20-30 spies at my disposal, then?

Basil: Don’t be ridiculous, Austin. I meant moral support ; we don’t have the resources for anything else. And ONLY your Swinger’s Pad is authorized for espionage… if you are caught using espionage to increase the mojo by more than one Great Artist bomb worth of culture in any other “legendary” city involved in a Culture Victory, your mission will be compromised (i.e. you fail this game objective).

Austin (mumbling): … destroy Dr. Evil’s Lair and get my mojo back, and get my Legendary pad back… this is not going to be easy. At least I still have that old Fembot. Groovy!

Basil: …and Austin, one more thing. The Ancients were not as “into” Liberalism as you are used to, so do please be careful how you behave.


(Space, Culture, or Diplo victory required, and Dr Evil’s Lair must be razed. Also, you must recapture your Swinger’s Pad, and make it Legendary without the use of culture bombs aka Great Works from Great Artists—you may NOT use a GArtist to create a great works to the Swinger’s Pad, because only Austin’s own etchings are allowed there. For background and clarification on this “culture through espionage” mechanism, refer to this thread and links therein: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=499578) (Please note, espionage missions in at least two of your Legendary Cities cannot include culture from espionage “spread culture missions” that is equal to or greater than what one Great Works –culture bomb Great artist—would provide).


There are 4 normal civilizations in this game, but unfortunately they all suspect their wives of cheating with you… so there are still some bad feelings there. If you win by UN diplomatic victory, you must have at least TWO other civilizations vote for you in the diplomatic victory resolution.

There are no barbarians… However, Goldmember is leading a Minor Civ, which is the same thing as barbarians, only different. Discover, learn, have fun.

Some early wonders have been distributed among the civilizations. To help you out, Soundjata has given you the Pyramids. Unfortunately for you, I, Dr Evil had other plans…the Pyramids were left in your Swinger’s Pad and Fat Bastard is about to capture it. You need to get it back before the game is over, of course. And it is FORBIDDEN to change civics BEFORE the Swinger’s Pad is captured by Fat Bastard.:nono:

The game begins with your Fembot minding house at your Swinger’s Pad, and Fat Bastard knocking on the door. Use the Fembot (MedicIII scout) as you like, she’s only a robot -- with a really nice rack. (I mean luggage-rack… what… which gutter did your mind wander to?).
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Since the flimsy and implausible premise for this scenario is relying on space/time travel, I want you to know that you start with the Technology of Fusion. And since Austin would never go anywhere/anywhen without the possibility to find a smashing polyester suit, you also go with Composites. On the other hand, Dr Evil and Goldmember know a thing or two about Fission… but you and everyone else will have to figure that out for yourselves. Some other techs to some civs can be there.:mischief: You all start in the Ancient Era, however. To prevent this game taking a “perpetuity” for you teams to complete, we have given all civilizations (including you) the technologies of masonry, and pottery. Everyone else also gets sailing, but not you. You have contact with all civilizations at game start, but they each like Dr. Evil better than they like you, because he is smarter, more intelligent, more clever, more shrewd and more cool (so cool, in fact, if he were any cooler, he’d still be frozen). :mwaha:Mwahahaha!

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Victory conditions:
Must (A) Raze Dr Evil’s Lair; and (B) Own the Swinger’s Pad, and (C) make the Swinger’s Pad reach Legendary Culture without use of “culture bombs”, and (D) You MUST use Free Religion civic as soon as (or if) you learn Liberalism, and then may not switch out of Free Religion until the end of the game; and (E) you must win the game in one of the following three ways: (1) UN Diplomatic Victory with votes from two civilizations other than yourself; or (2) Culture Victory with espionage contributing less than 4000 culture in at least two of your Legendary Cities; or (3) Spaceship arrives at Alpha Centauri.

Please recall that it is still forbidden to gift/liberate cities to a civilization you are at war with except as part of a Peace Treaty. YOU may not raze the Swinger’s Pad. In the very unlikely event that the Swinger’s Pad is razed by someone else, you are permitted to found a new Swinger’s Pad on the ruins of the old.

Laurels will be awarded to the team completing the most number of objectives, and ties in that regard will be decided by how fast you can do it.

To summarize, the objectives are as follows:
1) Dr Evil’s lair is razed
2) You own the Swinger’s Pad
3) The Swinger’s Pad is Legendary without using Great Works (“culture bombs”)
4) You win the game by one of these conditions:
a. Spaceship lands at Alpha Centauri
b. UN diplomatic victory with 2 civs voting for you
c. Culture Victory where Culture Through Espionage does not exceed 4000 culture in at least two of your Legendary Cities.
5) You win the game in any fashion, including the above, but also including Conquest/Domination/Time/Religion/UN with less than 2 other civs votes/Culture VC that does not comply with above restrictions/and anything else not covered.

Yes, if you complete objective #4, then objective #5 is also completed (two for the price of one). Objective #5 is to give you incentive to play on even after you realize that you will fail Objective #4. :evil:Mwahaha!

Breaking conditions on use of Liberalism requiring Free Speech or changing civics on turn zero is grounds for disqualification, not part of the objectives.


Game Options:
Require Complete Kills
No Vassals
No Huts
No Random Events
No Barbarians
No Technology Brokering

Opponents: 6 AI (4 Normal, Dr Evil, and 1 Minor Civ Goldmember)
All capitols pre-settled by evil mapmakers
Normal Speed
Ancient Era - all civs start in Ancient Era despite some advanced techs already known.
Map: Heavily edited, flat wrap, was based on Great Plains - barely recognizable now.
Contact at start of game with all AI
At war with Dr Evil at game start
Always at war with Goldmember as he is a Minor Civ.


Timetable

The Pre-game Discussion Thread for this game is now open for business.

Please sign up in this thread by July 30th at the latest. To help us to assign players to teams, please indicate your preferred team, whether you have played previous SGOTMs or SGs, and the highest level of Civ4 difficulty you can typically win at.

The team discussion threads for this game will open on or before July 31st

The team starting saves will be available hereon Monday, August 5th.

The completion deadline will be December 5th.. Plan your game, and please avoid a last minute struggle to meet the deadline.

Notes
  • Versions
    This game will be played in Civilization IV Beyond the Sword, version 3.19, using the standard BUFFY-3.19.003 HoF mod, Unless stated otherwise in this thread before the game starts..
    If a later BtS patch is released during this game you will NOT be able to use it to play. You will need to complete this game in BtS version 3.19 before updating your copy of BtS, or you should create and update a separate copy.

    Macintosh players can only join in if they are able to run the Windows software on their system.
  • Rules and Procedures
    Please visit the Civ4 SGOTM reference thread to check out the rules and procedures to ensure that you are adequately prepared for this game.

    All saved game files uploaded to the server are parsed through software that extracts and archives data about your save, including reload count for each turn set.
  • Spoiler information will absolutely NOT be tolerated in this thread.

Please sign up for this game as soon as possible by posting your own details in this thread. I shall publish draft team lists below in the next ten days.

Please use the separate Pregame Discussion Thread for any non-sign-up questions or comments about this game. Since kcd_swede is the true Dr Evil behind this game, and he is away until July 23rd, I cannot promise to give definitive answers to detailed technical issues raised before that date.

Current Sign-up Lists
The table below will display your stated team preferences as I add you to the database. The number of players in each team is shown in brackets, as are non-playing advisers.


Follow link to the sign up page!! Sign up page link.

It is a 4 month game but you will improve your game so much!!!

Can we get a sticky here please?
 
Umm.. I'm sorry to say this but I'm not very interested in this.. Because of Austin. How the heck this guy made his way to civ? I don't like it at all! Well, I don't wanna be too harsh but I just want to give you feedback of this accident since it was the only reason why I didn't join this epic, really massive game with CFC allstars in the place. WHY IN THE EARTH YOU INVITED AUSTIN?? I cannot play serious if I think that I'm trying to get Austin's #%± back :(.. Why not a normal game or theme like WW2 or Asia or E18? Don't understand me wrong please. You'll have my word to join ya if you have a more interesting topic next time :)! How often you have these massive tournaments? How often the most famous guys (lymond, kossin...) join this? Can noobs join you too? Internet-, PBEM-, Pitbull game? More info of GOTM? Thanks.
 
Umm.. I'm sorry to say this but I'm not very interested in this.. Because of Austin. How the heck this guy made his way to civ? I don't like it at all! Well, I don't wanna be too harsh but I just want to give you feedback of this accident since it was the only reason why I didn't join this epic, really massive game with CFC allstars in the place. WHY IN THE EARTH YOU INVITED AUSTIN?? I cannot play serious if I think that I'm trying to get Austin's #%± back :(.. Why not a normal game or theme like WW2 or Asia or E18? Don't understand me wrong please. You'll have my word to join ya if you have a more interesting topic next time :)! How often you have these massive tournaments? How often the most famous guys (lymond, kossin...) join this? Can noobs join you too? Internet-, PBEM-, Pitbull game? More info of GOTM? Thanks.

lol its funny that you say that Robert, because I don't think I've ever wanted to play in one of these before but now I do now only because of the awesome theme! :lol:
 
Umm.. I'm sorry to say this but I'm not very interested in this.. Because of Austin. How the heck this guy made his way to civ? I don't like it at all! Well, I don't wanna be too harsh but I just want to give you feedback of this accident since it was the only reason why I didn't join this epic, really massive game with CFC allstars in the place. WHY IN THE EARTH YOU INVITED AUSTIN?? I cannot play serious if I think that I'm trying to get Austin's #%± back :(.. Why not a normal game or theme like WW2 or Asia or E18? Don't understand me wrong please. You'll have my word to join ya if you have a more interesting topic next time :)! How often you have these massive tournaments? How often the most famous guys (lymond, kossin...) join this? Can noobs join you too? Internet-, PBEM-, Pitbull game? More info of GOTM? Thanks.

The most famous guys are all there or have been there (check out signups in top teams):D

Anybody can join, atlhough being able to win emperor consistently will mean that you can contribute more to the discussion. (Below that level you can still help your team a lot, and learn even more)

This is a succession game, it means that each team plays one save (the players discuss startegy, and then the active player plays ~20 turns, and passes to the next team member), and usually the team with the earliest victory date wins.

Austin, well the game is not for you if you can't handle his mojo :banana: :lol:
 
@ Robert -The game is open to everyone who wants to join. Not everyone is a deity player like Kossin. No one is forcing you to join a team you are not comfortable with. There are many monarch/emperor/immortal players in these teams. It's about being part of a team and learning/ improving your game. You can have a lot of fun over the 4 months too.

Many of the people who play these games started off in the strategy and tips part of the forum.

@ Joe - You really do have to have some sort of commitment to these games. We all love Austin Powers but you have to want to play out the game. Not sure a super baddy has been created for the AI? Maybe it has? You'll need to play to find out. ;)

If you don't know which team to join sign up as unallocated and AlanH will sign you up to a team.
 
I love the thoughtfulness in the theme. I've no idea about SGOTM, but maybe I could join if I knew some more specifics.
What is the form of in-team and between-team interaction and the time commitment?
 
I love the thoughtfulness in the theme. I've no idea about SGOTM, but maybe I could join if I knew some more specifics.
What is the form of in-team and between-team interaction and the time commitment?

You can only view your own team's thread while you are still playing the game. Yeah it's a 4 month game but most reams realise you have real lives. Taking part and joining in the debate and planning of the game is key.

For me I try to post daily but I am just an addict. Have a read of some of the previous game threads and decide yourself.
 
When I first started playing SGOTM games I was a Prince level player. I was shy to post in the team thread, but I learned a whole lot. I'd call myself an Immortal level player now.

I realise now that I had no reason to be shy. New players bring in new perspectives. Asking questions is valuable as it a) gets players to double check their assumptions, and b) helps the whole team learn something about the topic.
 
Also, you don't have to play if you don't want to as well. I participated in SGOTM 17 with the intent on lurking/testing and not playing. Due to some participation problems within the team, I eventually decided to play and I know I enjoyed it. If you do play, its not really to your skill set. You present a small 4-5 turn plan and there's a discussion on improvements/changes to the plan, so you can play above your current level fairly easily. Just be open to changes in your plan.

At the start of SGOTM 17, I was making the "jump" to Monarch, and right now after winning my only try at Emp, I am trying Immortal.

As for time commitment, sometimes it takes only 10-15 minutes to catch up and voice your opinion. If it is your turnset, it does require a bit more time, but for evaluating the plan it does not take much time. If you do have to be a way from internet for a while or can't play because of real life, just tell your teammates and they will understand.
 
I took part in 1 SGOTM and it is nice experience, at least a chance to learn a lot from better players.
I was also in other one, but was not participating because of some personal duties :]

I dont want to sign up like I did last time, when I was not playing. After I will be pretty sure to be able to take some turns, I will sign up. Anyone wants me in his team xD ?
 
I see what this is all about... after reading part of Kakumeika's thread of SGOTM 17.

The part about turns (-1) to 4 :
ahem, that was a fun 5-6 hours. ^.^

Going back to that thread...
 
Awesome format as far as I'm concerned! I'd like to encourage anyone who enjoys team play to and cIV to join a team.

SGOTMs present more fun and more challenging tasks and riddles to solve in team discussions. There is a reason why so many renowned players like Kossin, TMIT, Tachy, Lymi, Doshin and many more take part in this sort of thing... Actually, I'm way surprised that guys like Zx_Zero_Zx are not in the rosters ;)

Also, as a lot of the previous speakers pointed out, it's a great way to learn quickly!
 
Hahaha so SGOTM's solution for the CtE issue is to force people to use both ways of getting culture :lol:. Very amusing.

I am not shocked by this. They often pick out a unique game manipulation one team uses and try to use it in future games. They did that last game. It's nothing new.

It will be good for teams to experience something different.
 
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