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PPQ_Purple
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In that case here it is:No objections.
Just paste this into a new greasemonkey script and you'll get the desired results. Note that if you want to use quotes you have to use the multiquote option.
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Thunderfall, to me it looks like a red blob with a blurry white dot in it. That's for the envelope that tells me how many unread messages I have. As for the alert bell, it has never worked as it should, because as soon as you check one alert, it assumes you've checked all of them and the number (and red blob) goes away. If you don't remember that you still have unread alerts to read, you might not remember to check them or you could miss one.
Some of us are older than we were when we started here by 15+ years. There are/will be vision issues going on with some of us. I had eye surgery 3 years ago, and it's made some parts of the forum really hard to deal with if things are too small, too light (hence my request for the Dark theme back, so I can read everything without it either hurting my eyes or going all blurry), or not enough contrast. And that's with the screen magnified.
Now, for some other things...
1. What is a "profile banner"? Apparently I have the option to have one. I don't know what that means. If I add one, will it add something nice to look at just in my profile? Can others see it if they check my profile?
2. Conversations. This is a whopper of a change, and NOT a good one
. You can no longer access your conversations from your profile. You can't access your older conversations from your "unread conversations." There are times when I want to continue an older conversation with someone, but now I can't get to them via my profile.The only solution I found was to check one of my unread conversations, click on the link for the rest of the conversations (thankfully they didn't get zapped), and access them that way. I've bookmarked this link, but the point is that this is a really convoluted and non-user-friendly way to expect people to access older conversations. Some conversations are ongoing, not just one-offs with one or two responses.
3. Trophy points. I wrote to the staff of TrekBBS to find out the full list of what points are given for (it's been so long since I last received new points that I'd forgotten), and was given a list. Some of it won't apply here, of course, since we don't use post count to determine Starfleet ranks (change in rank means more trophy points).
Some points, however, are given out for other things that serve to reward and encourage participation and good posting and are general enough for any forum. We could add whatever of these we don't already have, and since TrekBBS has a Starfleet theme for some reward points, there's no reason CFC couldn't have a Civ theme for points.
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2. Conversations. This is a whopper of a change, and NOT a good one
The only solution I found was to check one of my unread conversations, click on the link for the rest of the conversations (thankfully they didn't get zapped), and access them that way. I've bookmarked this link, but the point is that this is a really convoluted and non-user-friendly way to expect people to access older conversations. Some conversations are ongoing, not just one-offs with one or two responses.
Click on the envelope icon next to the bell. The bottom left link, Show All, leads you to where all your conversations are.
Yes, this is exactly as you think.
@Birdjaguar has uploaded one for a test.
The trophy list is very simple, see here https://forums.civfanatics.com/help/trophies/
We considered expanding them, but there's essentially not many interesting options available.
@Valka D'Ur Once you add a picture to your profile banner (a Horizontal picture is best) you can easily move it around to get the part you like best showing. There is no need to crop a picture to fit. Let me know if you struggle with it.
Stark white on full-on black can be bad, too, so I prefer greens or yellows or blues as I tend to select for other forums.
Yes, our own list is extremely basic. But as evidenced by how TrekBBS expanded 113 points into 1560 points (would probably be more if there was a higher rank than Fleet Admiral, but only a handful of people have reached higher than that so it would only affect like 3 people; they said they wouldn't bother until more of us get there, and at my posting rate it'll take another 10 years).
Can I send you their list? Since there are so many more levels of points than we have, it must be customizable to some extent.
Is there a maximum size, or best size? I've got lots of pictures, but would prefer not to run into struggles and have to bother anyone about it.
Yours looks rather cool, btw. Since my current avatar has an Egyptian cat theme, I should have something compatible stashed away. If not, Pinterest will provide.
This is a sample of the theme I use on a forum called Pond Friends (it's a gaming forum for a more general selection of computer games; the particular group I hang around with there are mostly older women, though you don't have to be either grumpy, old, or female to post there). The color scheme is simple and elegant: black with two shades of gold font and white for the parts that aren't the actual post:
(I go by a slightly different name there since the one I use here is connected to Test of Time and few people there play Civ).
Currently the picture in my profile is 3.1 MB and is overly large. I positioned it so only the part I want to show shows. Soon I will crop so the excess is gone. Horizontal images work best. I will look around for something that you might like.
What points they have might be dependent on what software they use, their customisations, etc., so it might not necessarily be transferable.
I can show you instead what options we have:
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There is a bunch more options, but they are not really sensible. e.g. you can give out trophies based on anything what you have ticked in your profile, e.g. we could give out trophies for every Civ version you tick in there. But you could just tick them all. So.... IMHO not so useful.
Note: The "questions answered" refers to a specific type of "question" thread, where the thread starter can designate a specific post as "correct answer" (similar to e.g. StackOverflow). We do have that feature, but not activated yet, and we're discussing this right now.
@Valka D'Ur I have added a dark style. Please let me know what colours you consider to be a problem, contrast-wise mostly (aesthetically only if it's a big problem right now).
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You can always add more achievements for good reviews on items uploaded. So far it caps out at 500 I think. And there are people here who have more upvotes than that.
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Well to be perfectly honest I see this entire thing as pointless gamification that contributes nothing to the experience. Well at least nothing healthy. Indeed, I could and have made an argument that such gamification is actually unhealthy as it promotes addictive patterns of behavior by making people chase the achievement high. But if you have to add more stuff you might as well lean into that and just add more and more steps to the endless grind ladder of grinding for approval from internet strangers to make one self feel good.
I think PPQ_Purple was referring specifically to the Reviews in the Downloads Database, e.g. https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/the-third-world-war-1989.23477/reviews? That's one of the few areas where I could see the Trophy Points being useful. I agree that it's mostly pointless gamification, but it could also be a way for people to discover parts of the site they haven't used before. Leaving reviews for Downloads could be one of those, although I don't see it in The_J's list.
I do have some concerns that completionists may do things just because they're on the list, e.g. submitting resources or media galleries because there's a trophy point, not because they have something that they ordinarily would have used that feature for.
In the general case, that was actually a problem that originated with the vBulletin to XenForo 1.x migration. I can't say for sure whether any additional issues occurred in that area with XenForo 2.x, but suspect most of them are from the prior migration. It couldn't handle French áccènts, for exâmple.
I do agree that it would be nice if they could be cleaned up in an automated fashion. They generally got replaced with their HTML code representations, e.g. ž used to be ž. I've also seen issues with the occasional ampersand or quotes (smart quotes pasted from Word?). The problem is safely fixing all of them since they're spread out all over the threads, and if you fix them incorrectly it might just make it all worse.
I do have some concerns that completionists may do things just because they're on the list, e.g. submitting resources or media galleries because there's a trophy point, not because they have something that they ordinarily would have used that feature for.
In the general case, that was actually a problem that originated with the vBulletin to XenForo 1.x migration. I can't say for sure whether any additional issues occurred in that area with XenForo 2.x, but suspect most of them are from the prior migration. It couldn't handle French áccènts, for exâmple.
I do agree that it would be nice if they could be cleaned up in an automated fashion. They generally got replaced with their HTML code representations, e.g. ž used to be ž. I've also seen issues with the occasional ampersand or quotes (smart quotes pasted from Word?). The problem is safely fixing all of them since they're spread out all over the threads, and if you fix them incorrectly it might just make it all worse.
Okay, here's the list from TrekBBS. Most have to do with forum ranks based on post count, which allows access to hidden "lounges" - subforums where people can drop in for games and chat of a more personal nature that often has nothing at all to do with Star Trek and often to do with personal RL stuff.
Spoiler trophy points used on TrekBBS :
Spoiler trophy points used on TrekBBS :
I have all of these categories of trophy points, which add up to 1560. There are a few people whose post counts are far beyond the highest rank within the admiralty (there are 4 of these), but until more people get there, the admins didn't consider it worth the bother of creating a new kind of rank and lounge. It's a bit pointless to create a subforum where only half a dozen people have the post count to see it, never mind post in it (not everyone bothers with their respective rank's lounges).
I see from the screenshot you provided that CFC already has more CFC-centric and general forum-centric options listed. I am not suggesting a new trophy for every 100 likes. Encouraging people with that just the one time is good enough. Tying trophy points to things like "resources" and albums means that most of us who don't live on one or more of the Civ forums will probably never achieve those (I do post in Civ II, but not as often as I did years ago and I've never uploaded screenshots of games or even the scenario I created years ago - in any case it's likely gone forever, even though I remember the basics).
Are there fields to customize criteria for trophies? If so, we could come up with stuff that's fun and definitely CFC-centric that could encourage participation in various parts of the site. Or at least there could be a more appealing little note that accompanies the new point addition.
I've switched to it and so far it looks great. I like the contrast between the black background and white font, and love the green for the links. It's cheerful, and a good contrast that's attractive without being overwhelming. The black background makes my avatar stand out nicely, too.
There are a few of the smileys that have obvious problems with extra white pixels that need trimming, but that's a smiley problem, not a problem with the theme.
It's nice to be able to see the names of the different smiley categories. In the older version, these were greyed out and unreadable.
One aesthetic issue I would appreciate if it could be changed when you have time is the color of the Retired Moderators' badges. I've no objection to green, but this kind of pastel green looks so washed-out that it's actually hard to tell what color it is.
Okay, I found one to try. I couldn't reposition it, though.
Hmmm I don't know what happened but https://modiki.civfanatics.com seems to be unaccessible now since this change?
Besides the criteria listed, there's nothing really sensibe what we could use, I'm afraid :/.
it's all simply more of the number-based metrics (more posts, more likes, more liked, etc). I wished we could be more creative, but we cannot
.Okay, I'm glad to hear.
I might have a look at the badge colours.
Not sure if I can re-upload smilies, I don't think I have the permissions for that
.Thunderfall has started the 2nd part of the migration process, the migration of everything else what is on the server (e.g. also the modiki) to a new server. With a few things this has worked, e.g. the polycast http://polycast.civfanatics.com/ , but there are issues with the mediawiki software, which right now breaks the modiki. He's working on it.
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