VP Congress Session #6: The Close Races

[Recursive]

Hey all,

Filling in for @Stalker0, who usually does this.

As of today (with cheated votes excluded), here are all the races where the top choices are 10 votes or less apart from each other. Remember that voting closes on November 7 at 12 PM CST.

Vote​	Current Status (as of posting this)​
(6-01) Capture Unit Update Proposals	6-01a leads Nay by 1 vote 6-01a leads 6-01+6-01a by 7 votes 6-01a leads 6-01 by 9 votes
(6-07) Amphitheater/Gallery/Opera House Gold and Maintenance Adjustment Proposals	6-07a leads Nay by 7 votes
(6-14) Galley Buff Proposals	Tie between 6-14 and 6-14+6-14a
(6-15) Nuclear Non-Proliferation WC Changes	Nay leads 6-15 by 2 votes
(6-19) God of War Changes	6-19 leads 6-19a by 9 votes
(6-20 & 6-21 & 6-22) Manufactory, Forge and Pantheon Proposals	6-22b leads 6-20 by 6 votes 6-22b leads 6-22a by 8 votes 6-22b leads 6-21 by 10 votes
(6-25) Sacred Sites - Rework (based on @Stalker0 version)	Nay leads Yea by 7 votes
(6-34) Disable Events System By Default (Supermajority)	73.86% of voters voted Yea (75%+ required to pass)
(6-37) Remove Overlap Between "Goddess of the Hunt" and "God of the Stars and Sky"	Nay leads Yea by 10 votes
(6-39) Caravansary Changes (+Bank)	6-39 leads 6-39a by 8 votes
(6-42) Recon Unit Line Reworks	Nay leads 6-42a by 4 votes
(6-45) Balance City-State Personalities	Nay leads Yea by 6 votes
(6-49) Unique Improvement Enhancements Reworks	Nay leads 6-49b by 2 votes
(6-55) Proposals to Rename Ideologies / Authority	Nay leads 6-55 by 8 votes
(6-65) Balancing Classical Era UB - Tetraconch	Nay leads Yea by 8 votes
(6-70) Add New City-States When Major Civs Are Absent Ingame	Yea leads Nay by 8 votes

 

[hokath]

I am offering 6 gpt and 1 horse for someone to flip the disable events system vote.

I really think that the unfinished system should not be activated by default, and it should not be part of balance considerations.
I look forward to working with others to improve the system in the future--it would of course be a shame for all the events we made to go to waste when there are people out there who enjoy the system.

 

[CppMaster]

Why does it even require supermajority? It's just a flip of value, easily reversable. Snip snap, snip snap.

Also, if it stays on by default that means that events have to be considered when balancing, which are not. Why shouldn it be an exception? It's a no brainer to me to disable it by default and should be fast-tracked.

 

[Orange Chainsaw]

Random lurker here, logged in for the first time in forever to vote for the events system. I've been playing this mod on and off for about 5 years, and I don't remember seeing events in the patch notes a single time this whole period. There are no mechanics that interact with this system, little to no documentation on it, and no ways for the player to meaningfully use them in their strategy. Keep it on if the people desire so, but to me it is clearly a tertiary part of the VP experience - akin to research agreements, if not even lower on the totem pole.

 

[Stalker0]

Hey all,

Filling in for @Stalker0, who usually does this.

As of today (with cheated votes excluded), here are all the races where the top choices are 10 votes or less apart from each other. Remember that voting closes on November 7 at 12 PM CST.

Vote​	Current Status (as of posting this)​
(6-01) Capture Unit Update Proposals	6-01a leads Nay by 1 vote 6-01a leads 6-01+6-01a by 7 votes 6-01a leads 6-01 by 9 votes
(6-07) Amphitheater/Gallery/Opera House Gold and Maintenance Adjustment Proposals	6-07a leads Nay by 7 votes
(6-14) Galley Buff Proposals	Tie between 6-14 and 6-14+6-14a
(6-15) Nuclear Non-Proliferation WC Changes	Nay leads 6-15 by 2 votes
(6-19) God of War Changes	6-19 leads 6-19a by 9 votes
(6-20 & 6-21 & 6-22) Manufactory, Forge and Pantheon Proposals	6-22b leads 6-20 by 6 votes 6-22b leads 6-22a by 8 votes 6-22b leads 6-21 by 10 votes
(6-25) Sacred Sites - Rework (based on @Stalker0 version)	Nay leads Yea by 7 votes
(6-34) Disable Events System By Default (Supermajority)	73.86% of voters voted Yea (75%+ required to pass)
(6-37) Remove Overlap Between "Goddess of the Hunt" and "God of the Stars and Sky"	Nay leads Yea by 10 votes
(6-39) Caravansary Changes (+Bank)	6-39 leads 6-39a by 8 votes
(6-42) Recon Unit Line Reworks	Nay leads 6-42a by 4 votes
(6-45) Balance City-State Personalities	Nay leads Yea by 6 votes
(6-49) Unique Improvement Enhancements Reworks	Nay leads 6-49b by 2 votes
(6-55) Proposals to Rename Ideologies / Authority	Nay leads 6-55 by 8 votes
(6-65) Balancing Classical Era UB - Tetraconch	Nay leads Yea by 8 votes
(6-70) Add New City-States When Major Civs Are Absent Ingame	Yea leads Nay by 8 votes

Updates

1) 6-01: Its in a dead tie, go vote!!!!!
2) 6-19, also tied, and its a complete difference in philosophy (should GOW pantheon be nerfed further are buffed to earlier levels).
3) 6-25, sacred site rework 1 vote diff
4) 6-49 unique improvement tenet reworks: 1 vote!
5) 6-55 policy rename: 2 votes!
6) 6-65 tetraconch change, 1 vote!

 

[rkkn]

Updates

1) 6-01: Its in a dead tie, go vote!!!!!
2) 6-19, also tied, and its a complete difference in philosophy (should GOW pantheon be nerfed further are buffed to earlier levels).
3) 6-25, sacred site rework 1 vote diff
4) 6-49 unique improvement tenet reworks: 1 vote!
5) 6-55 policy rename: 2 votes!
6) 6-65 tetraconch change, 1 vote!

are factoring out the cheater's votes? tetraconch looks like it's not very close, cuz like 10 of those votes are from them

 

[Stalker0]

it is not, I didn't have an easy way to filter those out. so it is possible somet of these are not as close as they look. but in the interest of covering basis, if you haven't voted on the ones I've mentioned, you should do so!

 

[ma_kuh]

Next Congress:

Proposal: Lower Super-Majority threshold from 3:1 to 2:1.

 

[hokath]

That will require a supermajority, I imagine