would you rather have...

what's the point of this thread?
 
Poland's UA, easily. Throw in Germany's power and UUs to option #1 and I'd still pick option #2 over it. That Fall patch can't come soon enough...

Edit: I believe the point is to demonstrate that Poland = radioactive space ninjas on the scientific Awesome scale. Which is a totally valid purpose.
 
Poland's UA, easily. Throw in Germany's power and UUs to option #1 and I'd still pick option #2 over it. That Fall patch can't come soon enough...

Edit: I believe the point is to demonstrate that Poland = radioactive space ninjas on the scientific Awesome scale. Which is a totally valid purpose.

yeah thats pretty much it. Im sitting here thinking who I should play next and what steam achievements i dont have. I think polands UA makes the game 1 level easier, maybe 1.5.

And I'm wondering why all the super powerful, super dominant civs in world history really pretty mediocre to bad in this game.
 
Poland. Extra branch just wins everything.
UU are generally "just ok" at best. Having 2 of them is arrow in the knee. Not to mention that america UA is extra "what for?" Comparison Poland vs Korea would be much more interesting.

It would be nice if firaxis fallow rule "for extra UU you get one bonus UA perk" (as long your 1st UA isnt extra powerful).
However big NO for Poland nerf, since that would be just one less civ fun to play, im more looking forward to see underdog bring up to something interesting and more competive.
 
Wasn't it Sid Meier himself who said that every civ should feel overpowered, just in different ways? I totally agree with this and far be it from me to want to see Poland nerfed. Well maybe just a *tad* bit, but I don't see how it can be easily done; as it is the UA makes pretty good sense in terms of understanding it. However civs like Germany and America should be buffed drastically. Industrial benefits would fit Germany perfectly; a unique Workshop maybe? US needs a beastly late-game Marine unit (with like 4 promotions), and maybe something to do with culture or ideology. Nothing like using Marines to import those blue jeans to more reluctant customers! :D You could recreate the Cold War if you gave America and Russia Ideology-related UAs... The possibilities are endless and there's a lot of room for improvement in the old civs.
 
i agree dont dumb down a civ that they succeeded in making useful. Instead make the other obviously less practical civs into something more powerful. Their UA is incredible though, it would take a creative bonus to, in essence, beat it.
 
As for how to buff German/America in more or less accurate way (at least touching something):
America UA + Plantacion and each specialist produce 1 more :c5gold:. Which would play nice with bilethetile UA. (not to mention fuel warmachine)
German UA + land units produce 20% faster. And landknecht buffed to more like betterpikeman.
Since German has thins thing to craftmanship. This may be sick, but if you compare it to Poland or Korea it is just on pair but more focused.
 
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