That's the point:
Venice (confirmed city state) -> after the Roman Empire
Stockholm (confirmed city state) -> after the Vikings
So that doesn't exclude the Vikings as a civilization, even though I highly doubt it
Hmmmm Stockholm was not really a Viking city as it was founded considerably late compared to other cities (14th or 15th century maybe?).
But yeah, point taken. It wouldn't really make sense to have a Viking civilization and then a separate Stockholm.
Not Ragnar of the Furry Underwear, please. He was unimportant and is only there to represent a phony image that some people have of barbaric seamen who raided monasteries and pillaged innocent people.
I would suggest Harald I "Bluetooth". If not him, then perhaps his son, Sweyn Forkbeard, or...
Sweden? No no no!
Denmark would be much better and they actually had an overseas empire and colonized the Faroes, Iceland, Greenland and some islands in the Caribbean. That means their colonial empire in the Americas was actually bigger than for example the Dutch one, even though it wasn't as...
Can you say "anal" on this forum? ;)
I can read this but it's very bad Icelandic. Looks like it's been put through a horrible translation machine that doesn't know that the Icelandic language doesn't use "the" and "this" :D
Anyway, nice signature ;)
From the "A First Look at WoL" article:
Would Leif be a war-hero? He should be a national hero instead IMO. He was a very peaceful person and most famous for sailing from his homeland, Iceland to Greenland with his father, and from there discovering mainland North-America; Helluland (Baffin...
First of all, The Kalmar Union lasted for aprox. 125 years (something between 120-130 years).
Second, Scandinavia is not a geographical region. It's a cultural region that stretches over Sweden, Norway and Denmark and the places where they've held influence (Iceland, Faeroes, Finland and maybe...
This thread is alive again? I always enjoy talking about Scandinavian countries.
Overall I don't think Sweden is a civilization important enough to make the cut. Denmark merely makes it but together; Sweden, Denmark and Norway (and Iceland) they're very worthy.
Then we have medieval Denmark...
I think that Sweden couldn't hold up a civilization by itself. Only if it would be merged with the other Scandinavian countries could it make a civilization more important than f.x. Israel, Poland, Polynesia, Austria or even Tibet.
I absolutely agree with you that the mythical Viking...