Recent content by WeimingS

Ah, a nice conclusion to this debate, ironduck. A personal insult and a white flag.

Yeah it was pretty stupid and thoughtless, perhaps evil, but can you really compare it to Hitler's atrocities? Precisely. They didn't focus on a single ethnicity or religion (oh, say Judaism). It wasn't "ethnic cleansing". It was revolutionary politicide. It can't be compared with calculated...

Thanks. Always supplement factual evidence with some personal insults. :goodjob: Great argument! There's no way I can refute that! Uh, no, you tried to use a misleading statement to downplay Nazi atrocities. Rather, you stressed the existence of labour camps, and ignored the existence of...

Now we're on topic :goodjob:. The quote is taken out of context. He didn't order xx million people to be killed. They starved to death. What is that supposed to signify? Capital punishment = executions as well. Categorically false (and yes, I would like to see some sources, if you can find...

I said Stalin killed that many in his purges. He didn't "kill 20 million" political officers, did he? Were there even 20 milllion people working for the Soviet governement? Not a problem of critical reading there my friend, but of basic English comprehension. Let's not forget how you yet...

You ignore the last half of my sentence. :goodjob: Misleading vividness doesn't prove your point. I've read plenty about that turbulent period. Both of my parents lived through that period as well, and my grandparents were "landlords" and "intellectuals" who were subject to persecution. I...

Ironduck, I suggest you practice some critical reading when trying to debate this subject. Your reply was long-winded and repetitive. Ironduck says: Mao's as bad as Hitler. Weiming says: There was a difference in motive and very different means. The two dictators are not equatable...

Irrelevant. The Gulags and labour camps didn't have gas chambers designed to kill. They didn't have doctors performing vivisections either. Nor did they have crematoriums. Or lampshades made from human skin. It's unbelievable that you could compare a Nazi concentration camp with a pseudo-prison...

There's a difference between killing a few political enemies to stay in power, and marshalling the efforts of an entire nation to systematically exterminate a race. Please recognise that. What about them? I'd read a little into them first. Millions of people died from famine. They weren't...

Right, the keywords are "labour camps" and "purges", rather than "death camps" and "rounding up a race of people and exterminating them with poisonous gas." Mao's intent wasn't to exterminate 10 million people just because they were a certain race. The huge deathtolls (10-20 million) were...

Right, they were a byproduct of his policies. He didn't order those millions of people to be killed. They were starved (due to unproductive farms), not murdered. I believe there is a thread that already clears this up.

I must have been asleep in history class when they discussed the Maoist gas chambers and industrial killing floors then. Oh? What kind of fallacy is that? Ad relativism? China isn't "miserable" and "dirt poor" because many (in fact, most) countries are poorer. Among all the countries in the...

Heh, I must've exaggerated a little. I just went to Red Lobster for Father's day with my parents, and it cost $93 CDN (about $25 a plate, plus drinks), so I guessed if you ordered some more fancy stuff (like some of their fish plates), and a few more drinks, plus tip, it'll hover around $100...

By all means, of course. I wasn't trying to imply that China's a successful product of communism at all.