basque civ (can anyone make it)?

[Dawntreader]

hey guys i am quite new to the game and new to this site so first of all sorry if this is in the worng place.

i have no idea how to mod this game or i would try myself, but i was woundering if anyone that can make mods, would consider making a basque civilalization. i wrote my masters disseration on the situation in the basque country, so could help i bit with back gorund city names etc, but other then that have no ideas all to proceed wioth turning them into a playable civ.

i additon i am dyslexic so pleas excuse the incorredct spellings i am sure are in this post!!

DT

 

[Shqype]

I would like to take up this task.

In an anthropology class I read an ethnography by a Basque woman (Begona Aretxaga) about the feminist nationalist struggle in Northern Ireland.

That is very interesting that you wrote your masters dissertation on the Basque situation... I will try to get this done for you!

 

[Dawntreader]

thats fantastic if you need any help with place/leader names etc i will be more then happy to help, i was thinking of sabino de arana as the leader, he was the first person to really put together the idea of the basques as a nation. he was just ,my suggestion, use someone else or stop me if i am wrong

cities of corse being things like bilbao etc. i am at work right now so dont have basque spellings or anythgin, but as i say i will provide any info i can that might need.

 

[Dawntreader]

not meaning to rush you or anything, tkae your time and do it as and when you can, but how long does it take to make a mod like this??

 

[Shqype]

It depends, it can take hours, but right now I'm slightly out of commission because I have a throat infection (and possibly the Flu).

I'll read some background information on the Basques to get a feel for those people. When you have a chance I would like to have from you a Basque city list (preferably in the original Basque language).

 

[Dawntreader]

yeah of course!!!

what i will do is make you a list with the orginal basque names, and then also the english version eg bilbao socidad and san sabastien i think all have differnt names in basque, how many city names do you want??

and thankyou so muCH !!!!!!!!

 

[Shqype]

At least 20, preferably more. Chechnya has 22 cities, and generally 20-24 is a recommended number...

 

[LeninsTomb]

Dont Worry I Will Have Your Civ Done Soon. The Capitol Will Be Belfast And Other Basque Cities

 

[Shqype]

You mean Belfast, North Ireland?

 

[BlackEye]

capital --> Vitoria
Others-->
Bilbao - San Sebastian - Baracaldo - Sestao - Llodio - Eibar - Irun - Tolosa
Beasain - Vergara - Pasajes - Azpeitia - Fuenterrabia - Guernica - Bermeo
Santurce - Zumarraga - Durango - Ermua - Basauri - Zarauz


Leader : Sabino Arana (Spiritual , Aggressive ) or Spiritual/Financial --> I prefer spiritual+aggressive

UU: Guerrillero(replaces rifleman)
Favorite Civic : Organized Religion
Starting Technologies: Mysticism, Hunting
Flag:

All of this is only an opinion.I'm spanish and i studied it.

 

[Dawntreader]

to be hounest i think thats a great list black eye!

i thought giving the civ the name of Euskal herria?

i did have a few of the basque towns/cities on the french side on my list as well, bayonne, st jean de luz, and st jean pied de port.

i also toyed with the idea of having gurnica as the capital not for size of course but for historicall importnace?

my idea for teh flag was the same as yours, and i also agree with the leader, though i thought maybe throw industrail in there, sabino himself wasn't maybe but the basque country was one of the most highly industrailised parts of spain????

what do you think shqype is that enough cities there for you?

thanx so much guys for helpin me hopefully be able to play as the basques!!!

ps definatly NOT belfast lol

 

[BlackEye]

yes, guernica was more important than vitoria...but now country basque capital is vitoria, country basque is not dead ^^, so we should use actual name.this is only an opinion.
refered to industrial... sabino was extremely religious, really country basque is industrial, but the characteristics are for the leader,not the civ, and sabino was poorly industrial

 

[Dawntreader]

yeah i will go with all that black eye!!!

now hopefully shqype will be able to spare some time to make it

 

[Shqype]

Are you sure all those city names are Basque? I've seen Bilbao under the Spanish before ... I would prefer purely Basque city names compared to the Spanish and French, but I understand its not always possible. BlackEye, I appreciate your help, but I found this on wikipedia. I'm not sure if it's the same guy or not, but he seems like a good leader:

The Kingdom of Navarre was during a very short period of time the only political entity to encompass the Basque Country on both sides of the Pyrenees. The kingdom reached its greatest size under Sancho III of Navarre (c. 985–1035). It incorporated most Basque-speaking lands, among others, but was divided repeatedly after his death. In 1512, the troops of Ferdinand II of Aragon took the Southern part, but Basse-Navarre, north of the Pyrenees remained independent until 1620 when it was incorporated into France, with which it had been in personal union since 1589, when the King of Navarre inherited the French throne.

Since the time of Sancho III, there has been no single government over all seven territories. Basque nationalism emerged in the 19th century as the aspiration for such a nation state. In the 1980s, the Spanish state devolved into autonomous communities, of which the Spanish Basque Country became the Basque Country. Against the wishes of Basque nationalists but favoring the wishes of most the population of Navarra, Navarre established itself separately with little cultural collaboration. More recently, cross-border meetings among the Basque regions have been sponsored by the Atlantic Arc Commission of the European Union.

I already began work on the mod, but its mostly generic things now... I'm waiting for a more concrete list of cities in the Basque language, and a decision on their leader.

Basque Country:

Basque Flag:

Southern Basque Country

* Álava (Araba in Basque)
* Guipúzcoa (Gipuzkoa in Basque)
* Navarre (Nafarroa in Basque, Navarra in Spanish)
* Biscay (Bizkaia in Basque, Vizcaya in Spanish)

Northern Basque Country

* Lower Navarre (Behe Nafarroa in Basque, Basse-Navarre in French)
* Labourd (Lapurdi in Basque)
* Soule (Zuberoa in Basque)

All of this from wikipedia.

 

[Shqype]

Here are some Basque city names (wikipedia):

The current autonomous Basque area of Spain, known as "Euskadi" in Basque, "País Vasco" in Spanish, "Pays Basque" in French and the "Basque Country" in English, is composed of three provinces or territories: Araba/Álava, Bizkaia/Vizcaya and Gipuzkoa/Guipúzcoa (in each case, this is the Basque name followed by the Spanish name). There are 2,123,000 people living in the Basque Country: Araba, 279,000; Bizkaia, 1,160,000; and Gipuzkoa, 684,000. The most important cities are: Bilbo/Bilbao (in Bizkaia), Donostia/San Sebastián (in Gipuzkoa) and Gasteiz/Vitoria (in Araba). Both Basque and Spanish are official languages. Knowledge of Spanish is virtually universal; 27 per cent of the people speak the Basque language, but this number is increasing for the first time in many centuries.

Bilbo, Donostia, and Gasteiz are the kind of Basque city names that we need. I'll continue to look, but Dawntreader, if you have them handy, please make it easy for me...

 

[Dawntreader]

Ok personally i would agree with Blackeye.

Civ = EUSKAL HERRI
leader = Sabino Arana (spritual, aggressive, organised relgion)
banner = basque flag on its side

cites Basque name first then spainsh/french in brackest after each one, french cioties also marked with a (f) some name are the same if i couldn't find basque name or if the are the same anyway

Gastaiz (vitoria) - Bilbo (bilbao) - Donostia (san sabastien) - Iruna (pampalona) - Gernika (guernica) - Balona (bayonne (F)) - donibane garazi (st jean peid du port(F)) - Donibane lohitzun (st. jean de luz(F)) - Miarritze (biarrizt (F)) - Mauleon (mauleon(F)) - uztaritze (ustaritze(F)) -barakaldo (baracaldo) - Eibar (eibar) Tolosa (tolosa) - sestao (sestao) - Llodio (lliodio) - Beasain (beasain) - azpeitia (azpeitia) - honadarribia (funenterrabia) - Bermeo (bermeo)

Thanx so much guys am dead excited now!!!!

Dt

 

[BlackEye]

i write to up the post

 

[Shqype]

Like I said I started working on this civ and I'll resume working on it again now.

 

[Dawntreader]

thanks shqpye i am so gratful and thankyou blackeye for the city list

 

[Shqype]

OK BlackEye, now I need your help again.

The Basque UU which you suggested, "Guerrillero(replaces rifleman)," can you give me some background information about this? From where did you get this UU idea and how should it look like? Do you have pictures? With information on what this unit did we can decide how to make it unique (what attributes to give it in combat).

Also, a problem I am having: the Flag Decal is not working! (This is the in-game flag that the units carry around and the flag at the bottom of the screen).

Currently it stays only red. I need someone to help me fix this problem...

EDIT: http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/marknika/FlagDECAL_Basque.dds