Battle of Narvik - On Request

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Royal Navy Forces (RN)

2nd Destroyer Flotilla
Captain Bernard A. W. Warburton-Lee

DD Hardy (F)*
Captain Bernard A. W. Warburton-Lee
DD Hotspur
Commander Herbert F. N. Layman
DD Hostile
Commander J. P. Wright
DD Havock
Lt. Commander Rafe E. Courage
DD Hunter*
Lt. Commander Lindsay de Villiers

German Naval Forces

Narvik Destroyer Invasion Force
Kommodore F. Bonte (aboard Wilhelm Heidkamp)

DD Wilhelm Heidkamp (F)*
Korvettenkapitan Hans Erdmenger

1st Destroyer Flotilla
Fregattenkapitan F. Berger
DD Georg Thiele
Korvettenkapitan Max-Eckart Wolff

3rd Destroyer Flotilla
Fregattenkapitan Hans-Joachim Gadow
DD Hans Ludemann(F)
Korvettenkapitan H. Friedrichs
DD Hermann Kunne
Korvettenkapitan Kothe
DD Diether von Roeder
Korvettenkapitan Erich Holtorf
DD Anton Schmitt*
Korvettenkapitan Friedrich Bohme

4th Destroyer Flotilla
Fregattenkapitan Erich Bey
DD Wolfgang Zenker (F)
Korvettenkapitan G. Ponitz
DD Bernd von Arnim
Korvettenkapitan Curt Rechel
DD Erich Giese
Korvettenkapitan Karl Smidt
DD Erich Koellner
Korvettenkapitan A. Schulze-Hinrichs

U-Boats
U25 Korvettenkapitan Schutze
U46 Kapitanleutnant Sohler
U48 Kapitanleutnant Schultze
U51 Kapitanleutnant Knorr
U64 Kapitanleutnant Schulz

Whaler/Tanker Jan Wellem

Several German merchantman in Narvik Harbor were also sunk by the British destroyers.

*Sunk in this action.
 
Nearly 200 miles west of the Norwegian port of Trondheim, dawn had just broken out as anxious sailors aboard the British destroyer Glowworm searched the heaving waters around them for a comrade washed overboard during the night. In that same northern dawn, though, the lookouts spotted first one, then a second, German warship plowing through the early-morning haze. The German ships were the destroyers Hans Ludemann and Bernd von Arnim.

Only later would it be ascertained that they formed part of the screen for an invasion force led by the two battleships Scharnhorst and Gneisenau, along with heavy cruisers Admiral Hipper and Admiral Scheer. Clearly enough, however, they were the enemy, and sporadic or not, the war declared seven months earlier was war in earnest. At 8:15 a.m., April 8, 1940, then, with the sea breaking over her bow, Glowworm informed her own British task force that she was engaging the enemy.

The three destroyers exchanged fire until the 10,000-ton Hipper joined the fray in response to calls for help from Arnim. The British Glowworm was no match for the cruiser's 8-inch guns, and a torpedo salvo Glowworm fired failed to connect in the high seas. Within 10 minutes, Glowworm was ablaze. In a valiant last-ditch maneuver, the stricken British destroyer rammed the German cruiser, tearing a 130-foot gash in Hipper's side and ripping away her starboard torpedo tubes. Glowworm then sank, taking to the bottom her skipper and all but 31 of her 149-man crew. By the time the British battlecruisers Repulse and Renown arrived to assist Glowworm nearly 50 years ago, the first engagement of the Battle of Narvik was over. The race for Norway, however, had barely begun.

At 0300, April 7, Gneisenau had led Scharnhorst, Hipper and 14 destroyers destined for Narvik and Trondheim away from Lightship "F" in the mouth of Germany's Weser River toward Norway. Part of Hitler's Operation Wesübung, this force, along with the battleship Schleswig-Holstein, heavy cruiser Blücher, pocket battleship Lützow, three light cruisers and 8,700 soldiers were to occupy most of Denmark, Sweden and Norway.

In addition to the seaborne invasion troops, two airborne companies would capture Sola and Stavanger airfields in northern Denmark and southern Norway in preparation for the arrival of four battalions from the 69th and 163rd divisions. The daring operation would be supported by 28 U-boats and by the reinforced Luftwaffe X Corps.

The resources specifically destined for Narvik included both Scharnhorst and Gneisenau, 2,000 troops of Maj. Gen. Eduard Dietl's 3rd Mountain Division embarked on 10 destroyers and four submarines to protect the landing force from a counterattack. As soon as the invasion fleet arrived at Vestfjord, the major fjord leading to Narvik, the battleships would turn toward the Arctic before dashing back to Germany, a stratagem intended to avoid confronting overwhelming British naval forces.

German forces ashore would be resupplied and reinforced by tankers and cargo ships but until these vessels arrived, Dietl's troops would have to rely on the meager supplies carried with them aboard the small destroyers and on stocks aboard several steamers disguised as merchantmen that already would have arrived in port.

Aboard the destroyer Wilhelm Heidkamp, Dietl accustomed himself to life on a destroyer in Force 8 seas and wondered how his men -- and the vital equipment strapped to the destroyers' decks -- would fare on the voyage. Meanwhile, U-boat commanders in the North Sea and the Baltic opened sealed envelopes containing their orders for Operation Hartmut, their job to guard the Norwegian coast and sink British warships expected to counter the German invasion.

On the morning of the 8th, the BBC announced that, during the night, British destroyers had laid three minefields in Norwegian waters to prevent German ships from carrying contraband (i.e., iron ore) through the neutral territories.

At 6:50 p.m., April 8, Vice Adm. William Jock Whitworth, aboard the British Renown, was ordered to proceed immediately with his destroyers to block the fjords from a German assault. His group earlier had been en route to Narvik, had turned to help Glowworm and then resumed the course to Narvik at about 3:30 p.m. Since then, and unbeknownst to Whitworth, his group and the German fleet had been on nearly parallel courses to Narvik, separated by only 30 miles.

Aboard the German ships bound for Narvik the sea took its toll in men and equipment. For most of the transit a southwest gale had blown across the destroyers' port quarters, making life aboard almost unbearable. Men became violently seasick, some were injured, and 10 of Dietl's mountain troops were washed overboard. Dietl, too, came close to being lost when the destroyer he was aboard, the Wilhelm Heidkamp, turned turtle and lost her boilers before righting herself.

The German fleet heading for Narvik reached the entrance to Vest-fjord at 9 p.m., and the 10 destroyers entered the fjord without contact. Scharnhorst and Gneisenau then turned into the Arctic as planned and, quite by accident, ran into Renown and her destroyer escort at 3:37 a.m., about 50 miles west of the entrance to Vestfjord.

Because of extremely high seas, it took the British battle group nearly a half hour to turn and engage in a "Divisional Concentration Shoot" with Renown in the lead and her destroyers trying gamely to keep up while firing at the fleeing German battleships. Scharnhorst was hit twice by Renown's 15-inch guns, while the British battlecruiser took one 11-inch round that failed to detonate.

Despite the battleships' lackluster performance, they had successfully lured the closest British warships away from Narvik. The two battleships reached Wilhelmshaven on April 12.

After parting company from the battleships, meanwhile, Kommodore Friedrich Bonte led his destroyer flotilla carrying Dietl's 2,000 mountain troops into Vestfjord. The poor weather conditions now worked in the invasion's favor. As one result, the only patrol boat to sight the convoy erroneously reported it as a number of English ships. As Bonte's force advanced, several destroyers left the formation to land troops who captured coastal fortification along the fjord.

Finally, as the remaining three destroyers entered Narvik harbor at 0415, they were confronted by the aging, but still formidable, Norwegian coastal defense ship Eidsvold. Bonte dispatched his operations officer to Eidsvold to request her surrender. With the request denied, the German party departed. Shortly thereafter, the Eidsvold began to train its two 21cm (8.2-inch) guns on the destroyers and was immediately sunk by three torpedoes fired from Heidkamp. Exactly 262 of the 270 Norwegian sailors went down with the 40-year-old ship.

As Eidsvold settled beneath the waters of the fjord, Bonte's three destroyers discharged troops at Narvik's Post Pier. During the landing, a second Norwegian warship, the Norge, appeared through a driving snowstorm. She, too, was sunk, this time by two torpedoes from Bernd von Arnim, but only after five others failed to detonate when they passed beneath her.

Norwegian troops in Narvik were taken by surprise and offered no resistance. At 6:15 p.m., Colonel Konrad Sundlo, the military commander of Narvik, surrendered. One group of about 200 soldiers, however, refused to lay down their arms and marched boldly down the railroad tracks that led toward Sweden. When stopped at a German checkpoint, Major Spjeldnaes, the commander of the 1/13th Norwegian Infantry, bid the guards a good day and told them "Noch marchieren wir" (We march on), and did. Stunned, the Germans stepped aside.

Dietl's troops occupied the city while the destroyers searched in vain for their resupply ships. Of five such ships, only one -- the tanker Jan Wellem -- had arrived. The other tanker was scuttled after an engagement with a Norwegian warship, and two of three steamers loaded with ground equipment, diesel fuel and ammunition were sunk by surface and submarine action. The third steamer was diverted to Bergen. This left the single tanker Wellem to refuel the destroyers from slow onboard pumps while U-boats U-25, 46, 51 and 64 guarded Vestfjord.

That night, British Captain B.A.W. Warburton-Lee arrived outside Vestfjord with his five-ship 2nd Destroyer Flotilla. After a Norwegian harbor pilot told him 10 German destroyers were in Narvik, Warburton-Lee asked the Admiralty for instructions. Told to use his judgment, he responded: "Going into action." Aboard Hardy, he led the flotilla into the fjord, hoping to arrive in Narvik harbor at daybreak, about 0400 hours.

In the harbor, Kommodore Bonte was told that a large British fleet had arrived. Since the fjord was blanketed in a blinding snowstorm, a night passage of the rock-strewn passage seemed impossible. Nevertheless, German crews spent the night in their clothes.

The Hardy charged into the harbor at 0430, launching torpedoes at five German destroyers anchored among the merchantmen. Hunter and Havock waited outside the narrow harbor entrance while Hotspur and Hostile turned north and entered the Herjangsfjord. Despite prior warning, the Germans were taken by surprise and could only respond with a few light-caliber guns before Hardy dashed out of the harbor entrance. By then, Wilhelm Heidkamp was ablaze and sinking, and Kommodore Bonte was dead.

No sooner had Hardy cleared the harbor when her companion Hunter dashed in, firing eight torpedoes and her deck gun. As she left, Havock entered and launched three torpedoes that struck two merchantmen and sank the Anton Schmitt. Within 16 minutes, two German destroyers were gone; another, the Dieter von Roeder, was damaged, and the attackers were untouched.

As the 2nd Flotilla turned toward the mouth of the fjord, three German destroyers joined the battle from the main fjord and two more came hurrying up from the southwest. By 0550 a general melee had developed in Vestfjord about four miles west from Narvik.

Hardy took a torpedo from Georg Thiele, under Korvettenkapittän M.E. Wolff, and went aground on the south side of the fjord. Captain Warburton-Lee died in a raft while being taken to shore. Then, in one of the many barbaric acts that marked World War II, the German Thiele fired on other survivors as they scrambled up the beach.

Meanwhile, the remaining four British destroyers made smoke and exchanged torpedoes with the Germans. The Hunter and Hotspur were hit by gunfire that left Hunter dead in the water. In the smoke, she was rammed at 0615 by Hotspur and sank. Hostile and Havock saw the collision and came alongside, taking Hotspur in tow as they retreated down Vestfjord. The battle had ended almost as suddenly as it had begun -- almost.

As the flotilla continued out of the fjord, the British happened upon the German resupply ship Rauenfels heading toward Narvik. Hostile, acting as guard for the two destroyers in tow, engaged Rauenfels with her last torpedo and sank her. When the destroyers cleared the fjord at about 0930, they rejoined the main British fleet, composed of Renown and Repulse, the cruiser Penelope, and the destroyers Bedouin, Eskimo, Punjabi, Kimberley, Greyhound, Esk, Impulsive, Icarus and Ivanhoe. With their portion of the battle over, the three damaged destroyers made for repairs in England. For his gallantry in what came to be known as the First Battle of Narvik, Captain Warburton-Lee posthumously received England's highest award, the Victoria Cross.
 
The morning's battle had been costly, especially for the Germans. Anton Schmitt and Wilhelm Heidkamp were sunk with 131 men, including Kommodore Bonte. Diether von Roeder and Bernd von Arnim were immobilized and unseaworthy. Hans Lüdemann and Georg Thiele were severely damaged. The remaining destroyers, Hermann Künne, Wolfgang Zenker, Erich Giese and Erich Koellner, were undamaged but had expended half their ammunition.

With the arrival of the British battleship Warspite, the Second Battle of Narvik would begin around noon on the 13th, preceded on the 12th by an air strike from the carrier Furious. At 4:15 p.m., nine open-cockpit, cloth-covered Swordfish torpedo biplanes from Lt. Cmdr. PG. Sydney Turner's 818 Squadron were launched. A U-boat in Vestfjord sighted the approaching planes and warned the ships and ground troops at Narvik. When the Swordfish reached the target, they proved no match for antiaircraft batteries aboard the destroyers, as well as several established ashore with guns salvaged from Heidkamp and Diether von Roeder. Two Swordfish were shot down, and the remainder returned to Furious without striking any of the warships.

The Germans knew a major seaborne attack was imminent and set out to ambush the fleet with U-boats and the able destroyers remaining to them. Aboard Warspite, Captain VA.C. Crutchley and his fleet commander, Vice Adm. Jock Whitworth, were also aware that the Germans would be waiting and, before moving into the fjord on the 13th, launched one of their Swordfish to spot for the fleet. Then the order was passed, and the force moved ahead behind destroyer screens.

As Warspite moved up the fjord, she was sighted by the U-46. Luckily for Whitworth, the sub hit a submerged rock during her attack run and was forced to retreat. Farther up the fjord, the airborne spotter, Lt. Cmdr. W L.M. Brown, found several destroyers and informed the battleship of their positions before reconnoitering the harbor. On his return, Brown sighted a second submarine, U-64, near Herjangsfjord, north of Narvik, and attacked, sinking the submarine -- the first U-boat to be sunk from the air.

Fifteen minutes after U-46's aborted attack on Warspite, the British fleet passed the wreck of the Rauenfels and, at 12:51 p.m., found Hans Lüdemann and Wolfgang Zenker zigzagging the width of the fjord.

The two ships were taken under fire by the lead destroyers and by Warspite from a range of 10 miles. After launching several torpedo salvos that missed their marks, the two German destroyers escaped unharmed to Narvik. A few minutes later, the Swordfish aircraft reported Erich Koellner lying beneath cliffs in a cove just south of the flotilla. She was immediately attacked and sunk by Bedouin, Eskimo and Punjabi, helped by two 15-inch shells from Warspite.

Now, with Narvik harbor in sight, the battle began in earnest -- destroyers exchanging torpedoes and gunfire while Warspite fired salvo after salvo. Yet, despite all the activity, the only ship to take a direct hit was the German destroyer Erich Giese, stranded halfway between Narvik harbor and the narrow Rombaksfjord, about three miles to the north.

By 2 p.m., the Germans were nearly out of ammunition. Faced with the futility of continued combat in the main fjord, four of their destroyers dropped smoke pots and ran for Rombaksfjord. The British destroyer Eskimo, aided by another Swordfish spotter, led a five-ship charge behind them. Meanwhile, in Herjangsfjord -- across the main fjord from Narvik -- the Hermann Künne was intentionally driven aground to save her crew. Her scuttling charges had just gone off when she, too, was struck by a torpedo.

In Rombaksfjord, Georg Thiele blocked a narrow passage while Bernd von Arnim, Hans Lüdemann and Wolfgang Zenker landed their crews and scuttled at the fjord's end. Eskimo, warned of Thiele's position by the spotter plane, cautiously emerged through the narrows and, in the ensuing exchange of torpedo and gunfire, disabled the German just as Hero and Forester joined in the action.

The Second Battle of Narvik ended with minor damage to two British destroyers but with half of Germany's destroyer fleet littering the fjords. Thus, the Royal Navy controlled the fjords, but German troops still held Narvik. Dietl ordered Narvik evacuated at 3 p.m., because of the imminent threat of an Allied landing, but reoccupied the city at 7 p.m., when Warspite unexpectedly left the harbor. Every time the battleship appeared in the harbor, Dietl began to withdraw his forces again.

While the warships dueled in the fjords around Narvik, Allied troops under Maj. Gen. Piers Mackesy were already on their way to relieve Norway. The 24th Guards Brigade, composed of the 1st Scots Guard, 1st Irish Guard and 2nd South Wales Borderers, as well as the 146th Brigade, two battalions of French Chasseurs Alpins, a French Foreign Legion brigade from Algiers and a demi-brigade of Polish infantry, had sailed from Greenock, Scotland, on April 12.

he first Allied troops went ashore on the 14th at Harstad, about 60 miles northwest of Narvik. On the 15th, more Allied forces landed 160 miles southwest of Narvik at MO, followed on the 16th and 18th with landings at Namos and Andalsnes, farther down the coast near Trondheim. On the 26th and 27th, a battalion of Welsh Borderers and three battalions of French Chasseurs Alpins reinforced in the area near Harstad.

For weeks, Allied forces concentrated around Narvik while German aircraft harassed them almost daily from bases far to the south at Aalborg in Denmark and the newly captured airfield at Sola on the southwestern tip of Norway


It was not until May 27, six weeks after the first of 24,500 Allied troops arrived in the vicinity of Narvik, that Lord Cork ordered the final assault on Narvik. Supported by land-based fighters and naval gunfire from the cruiser Southampton, British, Polish and French soldiers then swept into Narvik from the north and south and across the fjord in landing craft. Despite a counterattack by Luftwaffe Stukas, by 11 a.m., the 2,000 German defenders had been rolled back. At 5 p.m., the Allied advance stopped to allow a Norwegian battalion the honor of re-entering Narvik first. The battle officially ended at 8 o'clock.

The victory would be short-lived, however, since elsewhere the war had engulfed Europe and plans were already under way for the evacuation of Allied forces from Norway. After the May 10 German invasion of France and the low Countries, with lead elements of a German Armored Corps contacting British forces near Dunkirk, on May 22 the Defense Council was meeting with Winston Churchill to determine the disposition of the forces in Norway. On the 24th, Lord Cork was ordered to evacuate Narvik and bring his troops back for the defense of England.

While most of the world watched with fascination as the Allies evacuated more than 38,000 troops from Dunkirk in only eight days, in Norway the German 21st Army Group advanced from Oslo toward Trondheim and Narvik. To save 6,000 Allied troops in Trondheim and Namsos from envelopment, the British High Command ordered them evacuated on the nights of May 30 and June 1 -- the first phase of the general withdrawal from Norway. However, intense dive-bomb attacks drove the supporting aircraft carriers Ark Royal and Glorious away from the harbor, and the evacuation was delayed for 24 hours.

Meanwhile, 24,500 Allied troops remained in Harstad and Narvik. Fifteen troop ships, escorts, and the carriers Ark Royal and Glorious rendezvoused 180 miles off the coast and prepared to go to Narvik two at a time to pick up the men. Fifteen thousand troops departed in a six-ship convoy on June 7, and the remaining 10,000 boarded seven transports on the morning of the 8th. The last forces to leave were a rear guard of Chasseurs Alpins, British engineers and control personnel and the various Allied commanders. Later on the 8th, Dietl recaptured a deserted Narvik.

The carriers were provided to assist the 46 and 263 squadrons at Bardufoss establish air supremacy during the evacuation. However, as the evacuation progressed, ground-based pilots saw the carriers as alternatives to destroying their aircraft and suggested that they be allowed to land aboard the ships. The major obstacle that faced them was that none of the pilots had ever made a carrier landing and their planes were not designed to do so. On the night of June 7, the two squadrons left Bardufoss and, guided by a carrier-based Fairey Swordfish from the Glorious, flew out to meet the carrier. Remarkably, all 10 Gladiators and eight Hurricanes landed without serious incident and were lashed to the deck for the trip home.

Although the German surface navy had been inactive since losing one-half its destroyer fleet at Narvik, the interlude had been well-spent repairing damaged ships and planning Operation Juno to intercept the British Home Fleet. On June 6, the Naval Staff ordered Juno executed and, at 0800, Gneisenau, Scharnhorst, Hipper, Lützow, Admiral Scheer and three destroyers left Kiel for the North Sea.

Aboard Glorious, a converted World War I battlecruiser (and sister ship to Courageous, which was sunk off Ireland by U-29 during the opening days of the war), the skipper received orders to proceed immediately for England. His flight deck was crowded with the additional land-based planes which made flight operations impossible, and so, with an escort of two destroyers and a tanker, Captain WT Makeig Jones set course for Scapa Flow.

On the afternoon of June 8, Scharnhorst, Gneisenau, Lützow and Scheer found Glorious and her escorts. The two British destroyers valiantly made smoke and charged the superior German force while the carrier tried in vain to escape. In a battle that took only minutes to play out, Glorious and her escorts went down, taking with them all but 43 of the 1,515 men aboard, including all the pilots from Bardufoss.

During the brief exchange, however, the destroyer Acasta hit Scharnhorst with a torpedo that blew a hole in her side 60 feet long and caused the battleship to retire to Trondheim for repairs. Ten days later, while clearing a path for the crippled Scharnhorst, Gneisenau was torpedoed by the British submarine Clyde. The engagement cost the battleship a goodly portion of her bow and forced her out of action for the next three months.

This was the final significant action for the control of Narvik and Norway. Hitler eventually stationed 3,000 men in Norway to guard against another Allied invasion that never came.

Britain lost one aircraft carrier, two cruisers, nine destroyers, six submarines, 17 auxiliary ships and 112 aircraft, counting those aboard Glorious. Another five cruisers and eight destroyers were seriously damaged. French and Polish forces lost one destroyer and submarine each, and the French cruiser Emile Bertin was badly damaged. Norway lost two capital ships and practically all of its smaller vessels and submarines.

German losses, while about equal in number to those of the British, totaled nearly one-third of the entire German surface fleet and were never fully replaced. During the campaign, one heavy cruiser, two light cruisers, 10 destroyers, 8 submarines, 24 auxiliaries, and 127 aircraft were lost. In addition, both of her battlecruisers, a pocket battleship, and two heavy cruisers were damaged.

The German success in ensuring Hitler a supply of iron ore, as well as maintaining valuable air, sea and land bases along the strategic Scandinavian coastline, came at a high cost crippling Germany's fleet. After Narvik, Germany could no longer challenge England's control of the seas. To memorialize the campaign's high cost, Germany gave the name Narvikclass to the ships that replaced those lost in Norway. The German military also instituted a series of campaign badges, the first being the Narvikschild that was awarded to the 8,577 men who participated in the Norway campaign between April 9 and June 9, 1940.

Narvik was the first time Germany defied the overwhelming supremacy of the British fleet. By using surprise, concentrated airpower at crucial moments, and aided by a large modicum of luck in the forms of terrible weather and Allied procrastination, the German Naval Staff achieved notable success that violated most contemporary strategy but achieved its objective.

Perhaps the most important "first" of the Narvik campaign, however, was the reliance by both sides on combined operations -- that is, coordinating air and land forces to achieve maximum military force at an objective. This lesson, first practiced in, around, and over Norway's fjords, has become the keystone of all modern warfare.
 
Two niggling minor things that might merit an edit?

"8,700 soldiers were to occupy most of Denmark, Sweden and Norway"
– that would be "most of Denmark and Norway".
Sweden wasn't on the menu.

And:
"Hitler eventually stationed 3,000 men in Norway"
– that would be "3,000 men in Narvik"
(At the end of the war the Wehrmacht had 200.000 men in Norway, quality troops to boot, and one serious question was if they would surrender or choose to fight on.)

Great read in all other respects!
 
From what I understand, the decision to withdraw the expeditionary force in order to protect Britain was taken prior to the landing and capture of Narvik?
 
"8,700 soldiers were to occupy most of Denmark, Sweden and Norway"
– that would be "most of Denmark and Norway".
Sweden wasn't on the menu.

Swedish Iron was, Sweden was not needed to occupy, as they would collaborate,even ship German troops through by railroad.

you are correct on 3000 men in Narvik.

Dunkerque and Narvik was two different issues. However, Dunkerque, being an emergency, came before Narvik, where the Narvik retreat coincided with the evacuation of the Norwegian king.
 
It is a good summory of the Naval assault on Norway, despite a few small errors. The victory of the German Kriegsmarine against a supremacy was a costly but also decisive one, since the Swedish ore was now secured and the way for the allies to Russia later the war much more dangerous.

Adler
 
I think the Norwegain campaign shows that Hitler did have his occaisional flashes of brilliance. Strategically it was a very prudent move and yet again the Germans proved they were one step ahead of the Allies.

I think the 'Altmark Incident' also deserves a mention as it was Hitler's excuse for moving northwar.
 
Great to read :goodjob: . Maybe a distant relative of mine was commander
of the Hans Ludemann (H. Freidrichs), my last name is frederick :cool: .
I haven't seen much of this battle, thanks for the info! ;)
 
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