G-III Upsilon
- Thread starter Marsden
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Bartleby
Remembers laughter
I haven't decided whether I'm going to play any games for this, but if I do I'll go with 80% and look for maps with very low Domination Limits.
RFHolloway
Analyst in the UK
Of course (strikes forehead) - because low domination limits mean lower amounts of coast, and lower amounts of coast imply fewer islands.
I took Bartleby’s advice about using a low domination limit. I still had several maps with 80% water, so I sorted them by domination limit, and started playing from the bottom up. On about my third or fourth try, I found one with everyone on the same landmass so I’ve now got a submission in.
The settings:
Playing in PTW for the 10 shield jaguar warriors.
Huge, Chieftain level.
My civ: Aztecs (of course)
Rivals: America, India, Spain, France, England, Egypt, Iroquois, Arabia.
Barbs: Sedentary.
Landmass: Pangaea, 80% water.
Other: Arid, Cool, 5 billion years old.
The criteria for the rivals was not starting with Bronze Working (spearmen) and not being militaristic (greater chance of promotion). I’m not really sure I should have used so many expansionist tribes – I’m sure at least 1 or 2 of them popped settlers/towns early so it might be better to use militaristic instead of expansionist.
My map requirements were 2 plains cows in my initial 9. The basic strategy was join the worker to the city to get to 5 spt right away. Build 4 regular jags to explore, pop a settler, and try to catch 1 or 2 tribes with an undefended capital. On growth to size 3, I would rebuild the worker staying at 5 spt. Next came a barracks and then nothing else but jags. The worker’s main task was to mine the plains cows – it wouldn’t do anything right away, but in my Golden Age, I could reach 10 spt at size 3. By the time my Golden Age ended, I should be able to continue at 10 spt at size 5.
Here is the start after joining the worker:
The first jag headed due north, the second due east, and in 3750 BC, this happened:
Most times when I popped a settler, I would settle right away, but with the 2 extra plains cows by the capital, I decided to use a couple of turns to move him back to settle in 3600 BC.
The second town (and most future towns) built a barracks then jags. As the game neared completion, I would not bother with barracks in newly captured cities, instead going straight to regular jags.
In the same year, I also found (and killed) my first rival:
By 3350 BC, I had 2 more contacts – the Americans and the Indians, and in 3000 BC, I met the Egyptians. In 2850, I met an English scout, and I located their border in 2800 BC.
I generally played very conservatively – my scouts just walked right by civs and continued to explore. I didn’t attack until I had overwhelming numbers. Most of the time, I probably should have attacked sooner. Delhi was on a hill, so I didn’t attack until I had 6 jags nearby in 2630 BC.
Since I couldn’t reach his city from outside his radius, I had to declare when he gave me the ultimatum. He whipped the spearman on that turn. My first veteran jag killed Ghandi’s non-fortified regular spear on a hill starting my Golden Age. The second veteran jag killed the warrior and eliminated India.
The next battle came in 2510 BC, when I had accumulated 5 jags by Washington. Washington was defended by one warrior, and the first jag killed him.
Whack-a-mole continued throughout. It was find the tribe, accumulate massive force, declare and destroy. Some tribes had as many as 3 towns by the time I found them, but if they had that many, then at least 1 of them would be unguarded.
For most of the game, I kept science at 0% and luxuries at whatever it took to keep 100% of my people happy (I wasn’t about to lose on tiebreaks again!). I popped Writing in 2310 BC – by that time I had met an Iroquois scout but didn’t know where their homeland was, but I had just enough cash to establish an embassy to get a fix on their location. I started regretting not having more cash for embassies/city inspection for other tribes, but it was too late, and my economy was not about to recover. Writing also provided the ability to trade contacts, but it was never useful because nobody ever had contact with anyone I hadn’t met.
In 2030 BC, I met France completing my list of contacts, so I knew everyone was on my landmass.
As the end approached I tried demanding cities or asking for a city as part of a negotiated peace deal, but neither worked – I had to overrun each of them myself.
The final death toll:
-2630 – India
-2510 - America
-2070 – Spain
-1910 – Egypt
-1675 – Iroquois
-1625 - France
-1575 – England
-1550 – Conquest victory.
The settings:
Playing in PTW for the 10 shield jaguar warriors.
Huge, Chieftain level.
My civ: Aztecs (of course)
Rivals: America, India, Spain, France, England, Egypt, Iroquois, Arabia.
Barbs: Sedentary.
Landmass: Pangaea, 80% water.
Other: Arid, Cool, 5 billion years old.
The criteria for the rivals was not starting with Bronze Working (spearmen) and not being militaristic (greater chance of promotion). I’m not really sure I should have used so many expansionist tribes – I’m sure at least 1 or 2 of them popped settlers/towns early so it might be better to use militaristic instead of expansionist.
My map requirements were 2 plains cows in my initial 9. The basic strategy was join the worker to the city to get to 5 spt right away. Build 4 regular jags to explore, pop a settler, and try to catch 1 or 2 tribes with an undefended capital. On growth to size 3, I would rebuild the worker staying at 5 spt. Next came a barracks and then nothing else but jags. The worker’s main task was to mine the plains cows – it wouldn’t do anything right away, but in my Golden Age, I could reach 10 spt at size 3. By the time my Golden Age ended, I should be able to continue at 10 spt at size 5.
Here is the start after joining the worker:
The first jag headed due north, the second due east, and in 3750 BC, this happened:
Most times when I popped a settler, I would settle right away, but with the 2 extra plains cows by the capital, I decided to use a couple of turns to move him back to settle in 3600 BC.
The second town (and most future towns) built a barracks then jags. As the game neared completion, I would not bother with barracks in newly captured cities, instead going straight to regular jags.
In the same year, I also found (and killed) my first rival:
By 3350 BC, I had 2 more contacts – the Americans and the Indians, and in 3000 BC, I met the Egyptians. In 2850, I met an English scout, and I located their border in 2800 BC.
I generally played very conservatively – my scouts just walked right by civs and continued to explore. I didn’t attack until I had overwhelming numbers. Most of the time, I probably should have attacked sooner. Delhi was on a hill, so I didn’t attack until I had 6 jags nearby in 2630 BC.
Since I couldn’t reach his city from outside his radius, I had to declare when he gave me the ultimatum. He whipped the spearman on that turn. My first veteran jag killed Ghandi’s non-fortified regular spear on a hill starting my Golden Age. The second veteran jag killed the warrior and eliminated India.
The next battle came in 2510 BC, when I had accumulated 5 jags by Washington. Washington was defended by one warrior, and the first jag killed him.
Whack-a-mole continued throughout. It was find the tribe, accumulate massive force, declare and destroy. Some tribes had as many as 3 towns by the time I found them, but if they had that many, then at least 1 of them would be unguarded.
For most of the game, I kept science at 0% and luxuries at whatever it took to keep 100% of my people happy (I wasn’t about to lose on tiebreaks again!). I popped Writing in 2310 BC – by that time I had met an Iroquois scout but didn’t know where their homeland was, but I had just enough cash to establish an embassy to get a fix on their location. I started regretting not having more cash for embassies/city inspection for other tribes, but it was too late, and my economy was not about to recover. Writing also provided the ability to trade contacts, but it was never useful because nobody ever had contact with anyone I hadn’t met.
In 2030 BC, I met France completing my list of contacts, so I knew everyone was on my landmass.
As the end approached I tried demanding cities or asking for a city as part of a negotiated peace deal, but neither worked – I had to overrun each of them myself.
The final death toll:
-2630 – India
-2510 - America
-2070 – Spain
-1910 – Egypt
-1675 – Iroquois
-1625 - France
-1575 – England
-1550 – Conquest victory.
AutomatedTeller
Frequent poster
rats. I have to play again, to protect my win!!!
nice date!!
nice date!!
Good map, but I definitely agree there was wasted time on your attacks. I find that 2 jags usually destroys civs early, 3 jags almost always does. You really need 4 or 5 once the game drags on.
For this reason, I have groups of two exploring for civs, with a third usually nearby ready to help another team of two. Once I get to 2000 BC, I will beeline jags where they need to go, and wait a little longer to make sure I have a steady attack.
But yeah, a little overkill on the groups, although no one is complaining about that date!
And good call on PTW.
For this reason, I have groups of two exploring for civs, with a third usually nearby ready to help another team of two. Once I get to 2000 BC, I will beeline jags where they need to go, and wait a little longer to make sure I have a steady attack.
But yeah, a little overkill on the groups, although no one is complaining about that date!
And good call on PTW.
jbryant
Prince
Now wait a second, if we're going to play a huge conquest, why not the full amount of rivals. I played with 18 and won in 720AD.
jbryant
Prince
Oh ok, this is my first time doing this.
The gauntlets are designed to fill inactive or relatively empty HoF tables. A game with 18 civs, while interesting, will not be placing anywhere.
Actually, they were designed to give the HoFers something further to shoot for, and empty tables are a definite consideration, but not the only one.
I didn't see it, you should still submit it. No one expects you to take the gold first try. We can still take it, but it won't qualify for the Gauntlet.
This Gauntlet is now closed. Chamnix is the clear and absolute winner, the only one to send in a serious attempt. Marsden, (I hate writing in myself in third person), sent in a lackluster attempt to get a silver by default, no other entries were recieved so I'm going to pawn the Bronze medal to buy a six pack for the Staff fridge.
The new Gauntlet can be found here, please check it out, you'll be glad you did.
