GOTM 134 spoiler

[Ali Ardavan]

Going for OCC

-4000 to -750

Date; Produced; Tech achieved; Other notables

-4000 Go for the hut.
-3950 Horseman from hut. Orange is in.
-3500 Berlin founded at 51, 57 with access to ocean, wine, and grassy silk
-3400 6 hills and 2 mountains in my city radius
-3050 Ceremonial Burial Empty hut
-2900 Archer from hut
-2800 Settler (size 1)
-2500 Nomad from hut. This is a gift from god
-2350 Monarchy Berlin is size 2
-2300 Horseman from hut. Revolution
-2250 Monarchy established. T3L0S7
Settler joins Berlin making it size 3
-2050 Currency
-1950 Writing from hut.
-1700 Trade None horseman from hut.
-1650 Horseman from hut
-1300 2 barbarian horsemen from hut
-1250 One dies in attack, the other disappears
-1200 Horseman disbanded
-1150 Literacy

Status at -1000
City Size: 3 Government: Monarchy Gold: 68 Techs: 9 Trade routes: 0
Structures:
Wonders:
Units: 1 None settler, 1 Archer, 3 Horsemen (2 None)
Goals: Build Marco. Discover Republic and switch to it.
Romans: No contact
Aztecs: No contact
Carthaginians: No contact

-0875
Monarchy, Literacy, Laws, Currency -> Aztec (5) -> Mapmaking, Warrior Code, no alliance
-0850 My power is strong. Pottery from hut
Pottery -> Aztec (6) -> Republic
Revolution
-0825 Republic established. T0L3S7.
Archer disbanded.
-0800 -> Seafaring. Berlin celebrates.
-0775 Berlin is size 4
-0750 Berlin is size 5. T8L1S1

 

[Major Advantage]

I was planning to go for EL, but there wasn't a decent SSC-location anywhere near, so it was rather early conquest. All those respawns are really annoying!

Initial consideration: Our continent seems large & winding => early & fast exploration high priority

-3950 hut: Archer
-3850 Berlin founded (49,53), start with warrior, opponents are white, yellow, orange => key civ for 2nd and 4th...
-3800 research burial
-3650 warrior built -> settler, hut: AT (Leipzig at 60,56)
-3500 Bur.->Mon., oedo in 5 turns, let Berlin work ocean
-3250 Mon. -> Mapmak., Monrachy establ.
-3150 hut: nomad
-3100 hut: 50g
-2950 Archer (supported) from hut, Hamburg founded from Nomad
-2800 Map->Curr.
-2550 50g from hut
-2500 2 boats built, Königsberg, Frankfurt founded, discover Karthago on island 7, give MM, peace, could get HBR, but refuse tech-trade
-2400 Curr. -> Trade; hail Carths, gamble on tech-trade (hoping for masonry or wrtiting), get HBR for Bronze
-2350 AT(München) West of Berlin
-2300 25g from hut
-2250 nomads on cont. 7
-2200 Trade -> Masonry

Stats at -2000
pop: 190k; cities: 6; techs: 9; government: Mon
units: 3 settler, 5 army, 1 van, 2 boats
Rome: no contact
Aztec: no contact
Carth: cooperative, peace
plan: continue expansion, build Marco (and then pyramids)

-1900 Heidelberg founded (on cont. 7)
-1850 Horse from hut
-1800 Hut: Masonry
-1750 Choose Writing (really been missing a 30s-unit)
-1700 Nürnberg founded (at northern shore of bay)
-1650 Finally something bad from hut: WC
-1550 100g from hut, Köln founded
-1500 Marco built: hail Aztecs, give some techs, get writing, maps, 100g tribute, get maps from Rome and Aztecs
-each AI has two cities, two horses approaching Aztecs => go for early conquest; construction from hut
-1450 Researching Poly, another horse from hut
-1350 hut1: 100g, hut2: Barbs (finally), Hannover founded
(horses survives barb)
-1300 Poly->Lit.
-1250 Bremen founded
-1200 Stuttgart founded
-1150 Math from hut
-1050 Bonn founded
-975 First van delivered: 80g for demanded dye to Veii

Stats at -975
pop: 480k; cities: 13; techs: 15; government: Mon; Trade routes: 0D1F
units: 4 settler, 9 army, 1 van, 4 boats, 2 dips
wonders: Marco
Rome: enth, peace
Aztec: enth, peace
Carth: cordial, peace
plan: conquer Carthagian "empire", check for respawn

 

[Ali Ardavan]

This is one unusual OCC experience. I do not recall any other like it. With 6 hills, 2 mountains, and few grasslands, my main bottleneck is extra food. Usually I am in a rush to get to Sanitation. In this game I have been putting it off as I cannot grow beyond 12 without transforming my hills, but if I create any Engineers I will starve my city!

Another odd thing is lack of allies. It took me a long time before I managed to get a single ally and I am afraid to ask for gifts because any gift could put my power above my ally and bump my key civ to nonexistent.

 

[Ali Ardavan]

Date, Produced, Tech achieved, Other notables
-0600 Marco Aztec (6) -> maps; T1L1S8
many techs -> Roman (5) -> Myst, maps
many techs -> Carth (3) -> Wheel, maps
-0500 T2L0S8. Power is still strong
-0475 Temple Rivals turn me down for alliance
-0425 Seafaring T0L3S7
-0400 Berlin celebrates
-0375 Harbor Berlin is size 6
-0350 Berlin is size 7. T0L5S5
-0325 Berlin is size 8. T2L2S6
-0300 Power is finally Mighty.
-0275 Library Power back to Strong
-0150 Philosophy
Medicine T6L2S2
-0125 Caravan Power still Strong. Horseman disbanded
-0075 Caravan
+0001 Trireme Philosophy, Seafaring -> Roman (6) ->
Construction, Masonry

Status at +0001
City Size: 8 Government: Republic Gold: 33 Techs: 20 Trade routes: 0
Structures: Temple, Harbor, Library
Wonders: Marco
Units: 1 None settler, 2 None Horsemen, 1 Trireme, 2 caravans
Goals: Establishing 2 trade routes with Carthage for badly needed money. Grow to size 12. Build Colossus.
Roman: 4 cities, 16 techs;
Aztec: 4 cities, 13 techs;
Carthaginian: 2 cities, 13 techs;

+0010 Power is still Strong
+0040 T2L6S2
+0050 Aqueduct Berlin celebrates
+0060 Berlin is size 9. T2L7S1
+0070 Berlin is size 10.
+0080 First trade route: Wool to Carthage for 228 T2L3S5
+0090 Iron Working Power is still strong. T2L2S6
Second route: Gems to Carthage for 253.
+0100 Marketplace Power still strong. T3L2S5
+0110 Caravan
+0120 Caravan
+0130 Caravan Banking
+0170 100g from hut.
+0180 Colossus T2L2S6
+0190 Caravan Legion from hut.
+0200 Caravan
+0210 50g from hut
+0220 Caravan T6L2S2
+0240 3 barbarian horsemen from hut.
My horseman kills one.
+0250 Caravan One disappears and the other dies in attack
T4L2S4
+0270 Caravan Temple sold.
+0290 Math Math -> Carthaginian (3) -> alliance
+0330 Shakespeare Berlin celebrates
+0340 Berlin is size 11. 3 barb horses from hut.
+0350 Berlin is size 12. T2L0S8
One barb horse disappears and 2 die in attack
+0380 Caravan tech bombed Carthaginians
+0390 Caravan power still strong. 50g from hut
+0400 Caravan Engineering
+0440 Diplomat
+0480 Caravan Astronomy University from hut.

Status at +0500
City Size: 12 Government: Republic Gold: 82 Techs: 26 Trade routes: 2
Structures: Harbor, Library, Marketplace, Aqueduct
Wonders: Marco, Colossus, Shakespeare
Units: 1 None settler, 1 Legion, 2 None Horsemen, 1 Trireme, 1 Diplomat, 4 caravans
Goals: Establishing 3rd trade route. Build University and Copernicus. Learn explosives.
Roman: 5 cities, 20 techs; Hanging Gardens
Aztec: 5 cities, 17 techs; Pyramids
Carthaginian: 2 cities, 24 techs; allied with me

+0520 2 barb horse from hut; one killed.
+0530 barb horse disappears
+0540 University
+0550 Caravan
+0560 Chemistry
+0610 Caravan
+0630 Invention Power down to moderate for the first time
Philosophy -> Aztec (6) -> Bridge Building
All but Astronomy -> Carthaginian (4) -> 0g
+0650 Caravan
+0660 50g from hut.
+0670 Aztecs deliver to Berlin (my third route)
+0690 Gunpowder
+0700 Copernicus undemanded deliveries for 160, 174
+0710 Democracy Democracy established
+0720 None horseman from hut
+0740 Explosives Explosives to all
+0750 Bank

 

[Ali Ardavan]

I just got done. Very unusual OCC indeed. The Carthaginians had only 2 cities for most of the game, and ended with 4. Romans and Aztecs built plenty of cities. Past midgame I had no chance, whatsoever, to be above either of those two in power ratings. This made it very difficult for me to stay at moderate. I often went to Strong which tripled my tech cost.

The terrain was another unusual factor. I do not think I ever stayed at size 12 for this long in any OCC game. With 6 hills, 2 mountains, and no grassland in my city radius there simply was no food surplus for growth before explosives and refrigeration. Eventually I turned half of my hills and both mountains to plains. With 4 None engineers, three of them from a nearby Roman city, transformation was done at a good speed though.

 

[Ali Ardavan]

Date, Produced, Tech achieved, Other notables

+0760 4 barb horsemen from 2 huts
+0770 Caravan Sanitation both horsemen survive barbarians
+0790 Caravan
+0800 Metallurgy
+0810 Caravan 25g from hut.
+0820 Romans found a city near Berlin
+0830 Economics Gems to Utica for 462
+0840 Theory of Gravity
+0850 Caravan
+0870 Conscription
+0880 50g from hut. T1L0S9
Sanitation -> Roman -> Navigation
+0890 Barbarian Knight and musketeer from hut
My horseman dies in attack on the Knight
+0900 Physics
+0910 Stock Exchange Barbarian leader for 100g. Carth -> 25g
Stock Exchange sold.
Carthaginian engineer bribed for 744g
+0920 Carth -> 25g
+0930 Magnetism Copper to Utica for 344
+0940 Caravan
+0950 Steam Engine Carth -> 25g
+0960 Caravan
+0970 Carth -> 25g
+0980 Electricity Physics -> Carthaginian -> Feudalism, 25g
+0990 Caravan Carth -> 50g
+1000 Carth -> 50g

Status at +1000
City Size: 12 Government: Democracy Gold: 230 Techs: 43 Trade routes: 3
Structures: Harbor, Library, Marketplace, Aqueduct, Bank, University
Wonders: Marco, Colossus, Shakespeare, Copernicus
Units: 1 None settler, 1 None Engineer, 1 Legion, 2 None Horsemen, 1 Trireme, 1 Diplomat, 5 caravans
Goals: Growing beyond size 12, building Newton
Roman: 6 cities, 31 techs; Hanging Gardens
Aztec: 7 cities, 37 techs; Pyramids, Great Library
Carthaginian: 2 cities, 39 techs; allied with me

+1010 Refrigeration Carth -> 50g. Roman Engineer for 224g
+1020 Supermarket
+1030 Carth -> 50g
+1040 Railroad Carth -> 50g
+1050 Caravan Gold to Carthage for 340
+1060 Atomic Theory 100g from hut.
+1070 Caravan Carth -> 50g
+1080 Carth -> 50g
+1090 Industrialization Carth -> 50g
+1100 Caravan Legion survives barbarian Knight
+1110 Carth -> 50g
+1130 Newton Corporation Carth -> 50g
+1140 Roman engineer bribed for 220. Carth -> 50g
+1150 Freight Refining Trireme disbanded. Carth -> 50g
+1160 Transport Barbarian crusader bribed for 82g.
Barbarian crusader killed and leader for 100g
+1170 Steel T0L2S8. Carth -> 50g
+1180 Berlin celebrates. Carth -> 50g
+1190 Sewer Berlin is size 13. Carth -> 50g
Aztec horseman bribed for 55g
+1200 Combustion Berlin is size 14. Carth -> 2x50g
Gold to Carthage for 594
+1210 Automobile Berlin is size 15. Barbarian Knight for 82g
+1220 Stock Exchange Berlin is size 16. Legion disbanded
Combustion -> Carth -> Chivalry, 0g
+1230 Superhighways Mass Production Berlin is size 17.
+1240 Berlin is size 18
+1250 Electronics Berlin is size 19. None musketeer from hut
+1260 Berlin is size 20
+1270 Mass Transit Leadership Berlin is size 21 and out of food. T3L0S7
+1280 Power jumped to Strong. Railroad -> Carth
T10L0S0
+1310 Factory All techs -> Carthaginian
+1320 Freight power back to moderate. T4L0S6
+1330 Power back to Strong again. T10L0S0
+1340 Recycling Power back to moderate again.T3L0S7
+1350 Power back to Strong again.
+1360 Recycling center 2x100g from hut. T10L0S0
+1370 Freight
+1380 Freight Aztec Engineer bribed for 248.
+1390 Freight Barbaian Knight bribed for 82.
+1400 Freight
+1410 Freight
+1420 Freight
+1430 Freight T0L0S10
+1440 Freight
+1450 Tactics +1400g spent on Darwin
+1460 Darwin Nuclear Fission Power back to moderate
Machine Tools
+1470 Freight Nuclear Power Oil to Aztecs for 826
+1480 Power jumped to Strong again. T10L0S0
+1490 Nuclear Plant Roman explorer bribed for 91g
All but Nuclear Fission -> Carth
+1500 Freight Miniaturization Power back to moderate. T2L0S8

Status at +1500
City Size: 21 Government: Democracy Gold: 1508 Techs: 62 Trade routes: 3
Structures: Harbor, Library, Marketplace, Aqueduct, Bank, University, Factory, Mass Transit, Recycling center, Nuclear plant, Stock Exchange, Sewer, Supermarket, Superhighways
Wonders: Marco, Colossus, Shakespeare, Copernicus, Newton, Darwin
Units: 1 None settler, 1 None Engineer, 1 Legion, 2 None Horsemen, 1 Trireme, 1 Diplomat, 5 caravans
Goals: Computers, space race
Roman: No embassy; Hanging Gardens, King Richard's
Aztec: No embassy; Pyramids, Great Library, Leo
Carthaginian: No embassy; allied with me

+1510 Offshore platform Computers
+1515 Freight
+1520 Mobile Warfare
+1525 Research lab
+1530 Robotics T4L0S6
+1540 Laser Nuclear Fission -> Carth -> Communism
+1550 Manufacturing Pl. Espionage T3L0S7
+1555 Spy Roman embassy established
Power Strong. All techs -> Carth
+1560 Power still strong. Spent 868 on Adam Smith
Roman diplomat bribed for 93g
+1565 Amphibious Warfare Power back to moderate. T1L2S7
Roman diplomat bribed for 94g
+1570 Adam Smith Carthaginians develop Flight
Berlin celebrates. T0L2S8
Conscription -> Roman -> Horseback riding
Mobile warfare -> Aztec -> Polytheism
Carthaginian -> Flight
+1575 Berlin is size 22. Power is still moderate!
+1580 Radio Berlin is size 23
+1585 Berlin is size 24
+1590 Advanced Flight
+1595 Eiffel Berlin is size 25
+1600 Power jumped to Strong. All techs -> Carth
+1605 Rocketry
+1610 Berlin is size 26.
Roman transport bribed for 137g
+1615 Combine Arms Carthaginian embassy established
T0L0S10
+1625 Space Flight
+1630 Apollo 3 barbarian cavalry from hut;
one purchased for 123g
+1635 SS Structural Plastics second barb cavalry bribed for 123g
Last 2 supported units disbanded
+1640 SS Component third barb cavalry bribed for 123g
+1645 SS Structural Superconductor
+1650 SS Structural
+1655 SS Structural Environmentalism
+1660 SS Structural
+1665 SS Structural Fusion Power T1L2S7
+1670 SS Structural Berlin celebrates
+1675 SS Structural Berlin is size 27 and maxed out.
T3L0S7. Sewer sold
+1680 SS Structural Future Tech 1 Aqueduct sold.
Super Conductor -> Carth -> Guerrilla War
Carthaginians cancel alliance
+1685 SS Structural
+1690 SS Structural
+1695 SS Structural Future Tech 2
+1700 SS Structural
+1705 SS Structural None rifleman from hut
+1710 SS Component Future Tech 3 Super Conductor -> Aztec -> Genetic Eng.
+1715 SS Structural 100g from hut
+1720 SS Component 2 barbarian partisans from hut
+1725 SS Component Future Tech 4 100g from hut
+1730 SS Component
+1735 SS Component 100g from hut. 3 barb partisans from hut
Settler and 2 horsemen disbanded
+1740 SS Module Future Tech 5 Coal to Rome for 600. T0L0S10
2 Engineers disbanded
+1745 SS Module First barb uprising in Germany:
fanatics and artillery
None rifleman from hut
Supermarket sold and many units disbanded
+1750 SS Module Labor Union 15s3c1m space ship launched
50g from hut
+1751 Supermarket barbarian fanatic kills my cavalry in fort
100g from hut. Oil to Aztecs for 595
barbarian partisan bribed for 102g
barbarian artillery bribed for 102g
2 barbarian units killed
+1752 Mech Infantry Power jumped to Strong again. T10L0S0
Musketeer survives barb attack
2 more barb units killed
+1754 Lighthouse Carthaginians join the space race
barbarian fanatic bribed for 41g
barbarian unit killed
+1755 barbarian unit killed
+1756 Great Wall artillery disbanded
+1757 2 barbarian fanatics bribed for 41g each
+1758 Oracle Musketeer disbanded. Harbor sold.
+1759 tech bombed Carthaginians
+1760 Sun Tzu power still Strong!? Last tech -> Carthaginian
Explorer and Mech Infantry disbanded
+1761 Future Tech 6 Power down to moderate. T1L0S9
+1762 2 Roman units bribed for 106g each
+1763 Statue of Liberty Roman diplomat bribed for 108g
+1764 Harbor Future Tech 7 T0L10S0

 

[Major Advantage]

@ Ali: Have you considered to turn the formerly grassy silk into wheat for more food? I'm not sure if two more citizens (either specialists or working hills allowing another citizen) could make up for the loss of some trade arrows.

My game is over as well, all those respawns really are a pain in the as...er...thenosphere!
My next part until 1 AD:

-950 Lit.->Wheel
-925 Dye(d)>Rome 176g, demand Carth tribute, get none, Raze Karthago 23g, bribe Utica 114 (37), Carth destroyed, England respawns, 50g from hut
-900 Wheel -> Myst., hail England, get maps, they are southwest on cont. 2
-875 huts: 100g, 50g, Engineering
-825 Salzburg founded, huts: 50g (near Aztec territory, could use a city there), 7 Barb horses
-800 Warrior lost, 1 Barb horse bribed (vet), 100g from hut, Dortmund founded
-775 Next one bribed, another killed (also vet)
-750 Was about to re-build Karthago, but it was on a hidden special!
-725 Invention from hut! That was bad, have two vans ready for delivery, hides(u) >Rome give 38g
-700 Myst. -> Pottery (Philo blocked), Berlin builds Pyramids, 72g for demanded beads to Rome, hail Rome, get Pottery, give Literacy & Invention (maybe they'll build Leo for us)
-675 New plan: Use 1-tile-lake and two Channel cities to reach Aztecs
-650 First riots in Köln
-625 Hello England founded, 50g from hut
-600 Mannheim(7), Mailand(10), Cremona(10, just north of Rome) founded
-575 Wien founded
-550 Freiburg founded
-525 50g from hut
-500 Philo->Mono->Republic, bribe aztec warrior 33g, phalanx 67g

Stats at -500
pop: 980k; cities: 23; techs: 23; government: Mon; Trade routes: 0D4F
units: 8 settler, 18 army, 3 van, 5 boats, 10 dips
wonders: Marco, Pyr
Rome: enth, peace
Aztec: enth, peace
Carth: enth, peace
plan: attack soon, build some wonders

-475 Rügen(6), Brunsbüttel founded (the southern channel city, on hill being mined by a pre-charged settler) , 50g from hut
-450 more riots, Düsseldorf founded, demand Roman tribute, get 75g
-425 AT(Flensburg) far north
-400 HG built in Leipzig
-375 huts: 2 crusaders, 1 nomad, put 2 crusaders just outside London
-350 demand english tribute, get none, attack London, destroyed, Greeks respawn
-325 Meet greek settler, deny peace, hm, they already have founded Athen, Wilhelmshaven founded
-300 all units near greek settler are "near Rügen" (cont. 6), so peace, give techs, maps, Athen is on cont. 12(!!), kind of antipodal..., plus another settler near the first one
-275 Kiel founded at northern end of channel
-250 greek settler would be 164g to bribe... too much for now
-200 Republic -> Banking
-175 Offenbach, Lübeck, Dresden, Regensburg founded, demand roman tribute, they withdraw; severe happiness-problems but Mike's will be done in two turns
-150 Hail Aztecs, trade maps (to see two more cities), demand tribute, get none
-125 Michelangelo's chapel completed, AT(Fehmarn) on cont. 14, Mönchengladbach founded, raise taxes for more money next turn
-100 Graz founded, demand roman tribute, get none, so it's war! cap Rome (47g), bribe Antium 240(48), bribe Veii 147(25), Rome conquered, Russia respawns
-75 Mexiko founded (just outside Tenocht.), Greeks found Sparta in the far Northeast
-50 Ludwigshafen, Griechenwald (cont.12) founded, huts: 2 supp. Archers
-25 Demand Aztec tribute, get only 25g, attack anyway, cap Tenochtitlan 12g, bribe Teotihuacan 220g (20 + Barracks + 4 army+ 2 settlers), Ulm founded, hail Russians, give techs, get maps
1 AD SSC founded (on cont. 6, with access to 3 whales and silk, but it's just a name)

Stats at 1AD
pop: 2.78M; cities: 46; techs: 24; government: Mon; Trade routes: 8D0F(but most at 0), Gold 125, cost/turn:0
units: 18 settler, 33 army, 6 van, 8 boats, 9 dips
wonders: Marco, Pyr, HG, Michelangelo
Russia: coop., peace, 1 city
Aztec: bad mood, war, 2 cities
Greek: coop, peace, 2 cities
plan: go on like this until respawns are gone, go for democracy, then build SoL for fundy, try some deliveries while celebrating

 

[Ali Ardavan]

@ Ali: Have you considered to turn the formerly grassy silk into wheat for more food? I'm not sure if two more citizens (either specialists or working hills allowing another citizen) could make up for the loss of some trade arrows.

I did; but I did not think it is worth it. Besides arrows it was giving me an extra shield that I needed badly. Furthermore, there were not many good spots for the extra citizens to go: hills without mining and mountains are hardly worthwhile.
Part of the reason for my hesitation was also the key civ issue. As it was, I had to struggle to maintain a moderate (lowest possible) power. Growing would have made it that much more difficult. Many a times I delayed deliveries because I knew it would bump me to Strong. At other times I would spend money in what under normal circumstances would be considered unwise, simply to keep my treasury low to maintain my power rating.

 

[Inkerman]

A bit late to this one, but have now played through pretty quickly to a conquest.

As if often the case my stats are not up to the best in the spoiler, in this case Major Advantage's set. Apart from the Major's greater skill and attention to detail, I guess the early discovery of an advanced tribe helped move that game along more quickly than mine. I did find several tribes, but later on in the game.

Milestones:

4000 Decide to move one square to get more land and less sea in capital's zone.
3950 Berlin founded. Start CB (10 needed.) Go for size 1 trick using forest.
3500 Discovery CB --> Monarchy.
3150 2nd city.
2400 Discover Currency --> Trade. Found 3rd city.
2050 Discover Trade --> Mapmaking.
2000 4th city.
1750 Discover Mapmaking --> Writing. 
1350 5th city.
1300 6th city.
1200 Discover Writing --> Pottery. Literacy from hut.
1150 7th city.
1050 8th city from hut.
 
950- Berlin completes Marco Polo. Supreme and spotless.
 
Romans - neutral, 5 techs, they do have pottery.
Aztecs - uncoop, 5 techs, no new ones.
Carthage - uncoop, 6 techs incl masonry and wheel.

Emissary Rome (5) - peace, swap literacy for pottery, give writing and trade. They are worshipful but won't swap maps. They have 8 techs and 3 cities.

Emissary Aztecs (3) - peace, give literacy and trade. They are worshipful but won't swap maps.

Emissary Carthage (4) - give mapmaking, literacy, pottery, but they won't swap yet.

Give mapmaking to Romans, and they swap.
Give pottery and mapmaking to Aztecs and they swap.

925 Start on Seafaring. Pop hut - another advanced tribe.
      Give Carthaginians Monarchy, and they swap maps.
900 Aztecs (3) - only folk on our continent, ignore our threats.
      So we have 12 techs, others have 9 (Romans, Aztecs) 10 (Carthaginians.)
825 Discover Seafaring --> Polytheism.
775 Found Hannover, Bremen. Pop hut - masonry.
625 1st van, from Leipzig-Carthage, Gems, for 180g.
      Found Stuttgart.
600 Discover Polytheism --> Mysticism.
 
500 Pop hut - advanced tribe Bonn.
475 Pop hut - nomads.
400 Nomad founds Salzburg.
375 Discover Mysticism --> Philosophy.
      Found Dortmund.
350 Discover Philosophy --> Monotheism --> Republic.
325 1st building completed - Heidelburg completes harbour. 
300 Emissary Aztecs, who have misfortune to be on our continent - 150g.
250 Found Brandenburg.
225 Aztecs get Republic (from a  hut.)
      Swap Philosophy to Aztecs for Republic.
      Swap Republic to Romans to get Warrior Code.
200 Start on Feudalism.
      Swap maps with everyone.
150 Leipzig builds Pyramids.
      Found Memel.
125 Discover Feudalism --> Construction.
      Found Chemnitz.
50  Found Cunaxa, on Roman continent.
     Found Vienna.

AD1 Status

Cities: 20 (vs 46). Population: 920,000 (vs 2.78M). Monarchy.
Techs 21 (vs24).
7 foreign routes (vs 8 domestic). 495g (vs 125g).
Wonders; Pyramids, MPE. (vs these two plus HG and Mike's)
Units: 6 Settler, 1 Warrior, 3 Archer, 3 Horse, 1 Crusader, 5 Trireme, 1 Dip, 14 Vans, 3 Explorers.

Romans: (5) Enthusiastic, Peace, 5 cities, 11 techs, 213g.
Aztecs: (4) Enthusiastic, Peace, 3 cities, 12 techs, 47g.
Carthaginians: (3) Enthusiastic, Peace, 2 cities, 11 techs, 250g.

Rest of Game

I found the "Will the game end?" aspects of the re-spawning a new challlenge. Up to now it has been pretty clear some time in advance when the end would come and plans could be made accordingly - luxury rate increased and engineers settled are the main things. This time I didn't quite the ending right and could have done a bit better with one more re-spawn. But it was a new situation and that was good.

 

[haleewud]

I am almost finished with the game. I guess I was trying for Normal Landing game, but I did not expand very fast. I did pop the hut before founding Berlin.

Here is the first part of my log.

-3950 Hut 100g
-3850 Berlin Founded
-3800 Start CB (10)
-3800 RB 8sh+10sh
-3450 Size 1 Settler
-3350 CB -> Monarchy (18)
-3050 Leipzig founded

stats at -3000:
pop.: .02M; cities: 2; techs: 4, gov: Despotism, gold: 64; trade routes: 0D0F; cost/turn:0
units: None
wonders: None
Footprint: 2 cities in Germany

Romans: No Contact
Aztecs: No Contact
Carthaginians : No Contact

-2850 Monarchy -> Map Making, Monarchy established.
-2650 Berlin Settler
-2500 Map Making -> Currency (36)
-2300 Leipzig Settler, Hamburg Founded
-2200 Berlin Settler
-2100 Currency -> Trade (45)

stats at -2000:
pop.: .09M; cities: 3; techs: 7, gov: Monarchy, gold: 59; trade routes: 0D0F; cost/turn:0
units: 2 settler, 1 warriors
wonders: None
Footprint: 3 cities in Germany

Romans: No Contact
Aztecs: No Contact
Carthaginians : No Contact

-1950 Konigsberg founded
-1850 Frankfurt founded
-1800 Leipzig Trireme
-1750 Trade -> Writing (60), Hut -> Munich
-1500 Writing -> Mysticism (77), Hamburg Settler
-1300 Leipzig Settler, Hut -> 50g
-1250 Munich Settler, Mysticism -> Literacy
-1100 Heidelburg founded, Hut -> 1 Barb Horse, kills warrior
-1050 Konigsberg settler
-1000 Literacy -> Republic (108), B. Horse dies at Frankfurt

stats at -1000:
pop.: .23M; cities: 7; techs: 11, gov: Monarchy, gold: 181; trade routes: 0D0F; cost/turn:0
units: 4 settlers, 1 warriors, 1 phalanx, 1 trireme
wonders: None
Footprint: 6 cities in Germany, 1 on 7

Romans: No Contact
Aztecs: No Contact
Carthaginians : No Contact

-975 Berlin food, Nuremberg founded
-925 Contact Carthaginians (3), Uncooperative, Give Myst for peace.
-900 Hamburg food
-850 Leipzig food
-825 Munich Settler, Republic -> Philosophy (120), Republic established, T/L/S = 0/5/5
-800 WLTCD in 4 cities. Berlin food. 4 vans to Berlin
-775 WLTCD in 1 city. Berlin MPE.
Romans 5 techs, 3 cities, 142g. (No Map Making)
Aztecs 6 techs, 4 cities, 172g
Carths 7 techs, 1 city, 222g
Contact Aztecs(5), give Literacy, Peace, Give Republic and Monarchy, exchange maps.
-750 WLTCD ends in 1 city.
-725 WLTCD ends in 3 cities.
-700 Philosophy -> Banking -> Medicine (). WLTCD ends in 1 city.
-625 Hamburg food
-600 Aztec govt overthrown, Romans Alphabet, Frankfurt Settler, WLTCD in 3 cities, Hut -> Pottery
-575 Aztec Monarchy. Carths Poly. Romans start Pyramids. Medicine -> Seafaring (), Berlin Beads. Contact Aztecs exchange Trade for Seafaring. Hut -> 50g.
-550 Nuremberg settler. Start Masonry. WLTCD ends in 2 cities.
-500 Cologne founded, hut -> 50g

stats at -500:
pop.: 1.04M; cities: 9; techs: 17, gov: Monarchy, gold: 338; trade routes: 0D0F; cost/turn:0
units: 5 settlers, 4 warriors, 1 palanx, 2 trireme, 2 caravan
wonders: MPE
Footprint: 7 cities in Germany, 2 on 7

Romans 6 techs, 3 cities, 167g. Peace, Despotism, Neutral
Aztecs 10 techs, 4 cities, 269g. Peace, Monarchy, Enthusiastic
Carths 6 techs, 3 cities, 242g. Peace, Despotism, Uncooperative

-450 Heidelberg Settler
-425 Hamburg food
-400 WLTCD in 1 city, Hannover founded, Trade Literacy to Romans for Masonry, Give Republic to Carths, Trade Philo for Wheel, Seafaring for Polytheism
-375 Aztec Masonry, establish Republic, Start Monotheism. Berlin food.
-325 Monotheism -> Construction ()
-300 Leipzig Hides, Give Trade to Romans, Trade Republic for Construction
-275 Start Engineering. Hamburg food. 4 vans to Hamburg
-250 Carth govt overthrown. Frankfurt Settler, Hamburg Hanging Gardens. Bremen founded.
-225 Carth Republic established. WLTCD startes in 1 city, ends in 1 city. Hut -> Archer
-200 WLTCD ends in 1 city. Berlin food.
-175 Munich Settler, Hut -> Archer
-150 Konigsberg Hides, Hamburg Temple, Leipzig Diplomat
-125 Roman Republic established. WLTCD ends in 1 city. Hut -> 3 barb Horse + 1 Legion
-100 Aztecs HBR, Hut -> Archer. Bribe barb Horse 41g (NON)
-75 Aztecs start GL, change to Pyramids. Bribe barb Legion for 82g (NON)
-50 Nuremberg Silk, Bribe Barb Horse for 41G (NON), Barb Horse for 42g (Konig)
-25 Hamburg Dye
+1 Heidelburg Silk, Berlin food, Engineering -> Mathematics(). Hut -> Mathematics ()

stats at +1:
pop.: 1.34M; cities: 11; techs: 24, gov: Republic, gold: 173; trade routes: 0D0F; cost/turn:1
units: 7 settlers, 3 warriors, 1 phalanx, 3 archers, 1 legion, 2 horsemen, 2 trireme, 1 diplomat, 8 caravan
wonders: HG, MPE
Footprint: 8 cities in Germany, 2 on 7, 1 on 10

Romans 9 techs, 3 cities, 200g. Peace, Republic, Enthusiastic
Aztecs 12 techs, 4 cities, 387g. Peace, Monarchy, Enthusiastic
Carths 11 techs, 3 cities, 277g. Peace, Republic, Receptive