[BTS] How to go for conquest victory?

[Tobiyogi]

Hi Civ Fanatics,

I must admit that I am big fan of Lain and i have unconsciously adopted his philosophy to always aim for a domination victory no matter what leader and civ I am playing. It works out well but now I am also tempted to conquer the whole world at least once.
As I have never done that before, I wonder ....

- if any vassaling would spoil that type of victory forever? Or is there a chance to get rid of a vassal later?
- if the AI's behave differently when I mark "Conquest" as the only victory condition?
- how early I should begin to raze my opponents? I always play on IMM, and sometimes one neighbour grows incredibly big and strong if I wait too long..

THanks for your hints
Tobiyogi

 

[Excal]

this is one of the most impressive Conquests I have seen recently

https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/nc-clxxii-wang-kon-of-korea.561274/#post-14120692

 

[Tobiyogi]

cool, I have already played that map, but i managed somehow to spoil a perfect position with orcaling construction....... but, it seems that Elite didn't go for conquest but for domination. Doesn't conquest mean to eliminate everyone?

 

[Qactus]

- if any vassaling would spoil that type of victory forever? Or is there a chance to get rid of a vassal later?
In order to achieve a conquest victory, you need to either destroy or vassal all opponents.
- if the AI's behave differently when I mark "Conquest" as the only victory condition?
It would certainly make things easier for the player, since AI culture victories are no longer a threat. So I would prefer to leave all conditions open and just restrict myself.
- how early I should begin to raze my opponents? I always play on IMM, and sometimes one neighbour grows incredibly big and strong if I wait too long..
Depends on the available land of course. But if I play let's say Egypt on IMM and discover horses nearby, I'd probably consider it a waste not to pay somebody a visit with War Chariots regardless of my land.
THanks for your hints
Tobiyogi

 

[Tobiyogi]

I see... you can also vassal all your opponents.... i kept on believing that you have to raze them completely... so it will be probably a bit of an art to achieve conquest before you have reached the domination level

 

[Excal]

Doesn't conquest mean to eliminate everyone?

Oh - I see, you mean Kill all AI as DEAD (I think thats a slightly different definition of Conquest)

 

[Tobiyogi]

yeah, but vassaling everyone should be hard enough. I tend to lose patience in the end of my games and am always happy when I have finally reached the land percentage for domination.

 

[Izuul]

Conquest can be easier than domination at times. Once you get big and powerful the AI capitulate easier. Taking vassals saves time and troops.

It's usually necessary to capture a decent number of cities from your first 1-2 targets to get your production base up, but after that you can vassal a lot more and gift unwanted cities back after wars end.