Hello Civ Fanatics!
I am very late to the party when it comes to Civilization. I bought civ 5 and 6 a long time ago. I picked them up in sales but only recently started playing Civ 5.
I absolutely fell in love and have been addicted ever since.
I have not even bothered to try Civ 6 yet as i'm still enjoying 5 too much (also Civ 6 graphics style just puts me off)
The next logical step in my love affair with Civilization 5 was to create and publish mods. Something I have done with other games in the past with relative success and enjoyment.
I have spent the last couple of weeks learning about modding this game and creating new civs in particular.
I found all the information I could about creating new civs. I did the research and then got to work on choosing interesting historical civilizations that have not been used before and spent a lot of time creating the artwork and coming up with unique abilities etc
I have a lot of ideas and made some (imho) incredible art and have some really good civilizations ready to be made.
The problem is that now I come to the actual work of using mod buddy to create civs I have found that the guides and information out there are either incomplete, unfinished or straight up not user friendly for beginners.
It seems to me that to attempt to learn anything to do with modding Civ 5 you need to patch together information from various resources to even come close to getting a straight answer.
Keniisu's infuriatingly incomplete You Tube videos for example are agonizingly close to giving the required information for a new modder but seem to be made for experts and skip a million steps. He consistently mentions what appear to be vital things and promises that it will be covered or answered later only to be skipped or never mentioned again. For example he mentions Diplomacy Responses and how we don't need that till later only to never mention it again... in not one but TWO videos!
That being said it seems he is the only person to have made videos for this so kudos to him for trying!
There is also the Modders Guide available on this site which is a great tool but seems to be missing a lot of contextual information and vital "how to" sections seem not to exist. It simply lists what has to be done without showing how to do most of it (at least from a newbie perspective). No disrespect to the author of the guide. It was clearly made by someone with a lot of wisdom and the level of dedication to produce something like that is amazing and I hope they got the respect and appreciation they deserved at the time.
However both sources feel to me a little like Dominic Torretto giving someone a driving lesson and literally racing around for an hour doing donuts and drifting whilst mentioning cool driving phrases and one liners and then tossing them the keys and saying "now you do that" without actually realizing they never taught them how to turn the ignition key, change gears or how to use the pedals.
I have five civilizations ready to go however I reached what seems to be a very common point of failure...
the dreaded "Mod not showing up in selection screen" situation.
The closest answer I can find for this problem is to check the XML code for errors or duplicates etc but like many other new civ modders I am "consciously incompetent" and can merely follow the steps given and scour the internet for the knowledge to effectively troubleshoot issues when they arise.
Finding old posts and comments with similar issues and hoping to stumble upon the correct answer can only get you so far.
I noticed that one way to solve the "Civ not showing in game" problem is to upload the file for the civ here on Civ Fanatics for an expert to take a look at it. They see what is wrong within the code and tell a budding modder what is wrong and help them fix it but I have noticed countless unanswered questions and cries for help here on the forums as well as in You Tube comments sections.....
So...... instead of attempting to do that at this point I have chosen to write this post instead because I think if I was to post asking for help and receive no reply then my PC may have a violent exit through the window and its winter so windows are kinda useful right now...
which leads me the point and the title of this post...
Is Civ 5 dead?
Has the Civilization community moved exclusively to Civ 6?
Is there any point at all in a new player bothering to get into the mod scene for Civ 5 ?
Did Disney/Pixar design Civ 6?
Should I abandon all hope for my new Civs? Or save them for civ 6 or even 7?
Is there room in this world for new civ fanatics or has the door firmly shut for newcomers?
In closing I would just like to say that I feel very exited to join the Civ Community but perhaps I should just wait for Humankind !
Moderator Action: moved, and edited the sentence that was not family friendly -Gedemon
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889
I am very late to the party when it comes to Civilization. I bought civ 5 and 6 a long time ago. I picked them up in sales but only recently started playing Civ 5.
I absolutely fell in love and have been addicted ever since.
I have not even bothered to try Civ 6 yet as i'm still enjoying 5 too much (also Civ 6 graphics style just puts me off)
The next logical step in my love affair with Civilization 5 was to create and publish mods. Something I have done with other games in the past with relative success and enjoyment.
I have spent the last couple of weeks learning about modding this game and creating new civs in particular.
I found all the information I could about creating new civs. I did the research and then got to work on choosing interesting historical civilizations that have not been used before and spent a lot of time creating the artwork and coming up with unique abilities etc
I have a lot of ideas and made some (imho) incredible art and have some really good civilizations ready to be made.
The problem is that now I come to the actual work of using mod buddy to create civs I have found that the guides and information out there are either incomplete, unfinished or straight up not user friendly for beginners.
It seems to me that to attempt to learn anything to do with modding Civ 5 you need to patch together information from various resources to even come close to getting a straight answer.
Keniisu's infuriatingly incomplete You Tube videos for example are agonizingly close to giving the required information for a new modder but seem to be made for experts and skip a million steps. He consistently mentions what appear to be vital things and promises that it will be covered or answered later only to be skipped or never mentioned again. For example he mentions Diplomacy Responses and how we don't need that till later only to never mention it again... in not one but TWO videos!
That being said it seems he is the only person to have made videos for this so kudos to him for trying!
There is also the Modders Guide available on this site which is a great tool but seems to be missing a lot of contextual information and vital "how to" sections seem not to exist. It simply lists what has to be done without showing how to do most of it (at least from a newbie perspective). No disrespect to the author of the guide. It was clearly made by someone with a lot of wisdom and the level of dedication to produce something like that is amazing and I hope they got the respect and appreciation they deserved at the time.
However both sources feel to me a little like Dominic Torretto giving someone a driving lesson and literally racing around for an hour doing donuts and drifting whilst mentioning cool driving phrases and one liners and then tossing them the keys and saying "now you do that" without actually realizing they never taught them how to turn the ignition key, change gears or how to use the pedals.
I have five civilizations ready to go however I reached what seems to be a very common point of failure...
the dreaded "Mod not showing up in selection screen" situation.
The closest answer I can find for this problem is to check the XML code for errors or duplicates etc but like many other new civ modders I am "consciously incompetent" and can merely follow the steps given and scour the internet for the knowledge to effectively troubleshoot issues when they arise.
Finding old posts and comments with similar issues and hoping to stumble upon the correct answer can only get you so far.
I noticed that one way to solve the "Civ not showing in game" problem is to upload the file for the civ here on Civ Fanatics for an expert to take a look at it. They see what is wrong within the code and tell a budding modder what is wrong and help them fix it but I have noticed countless unanswered questions and cries for help here on the forums as well as in You Tube comments sections.....
So...... instead of attempting to do that at this point I have chosen to write this post instead because I think if I was to post asking for help and receive no reply then my PC may have a violent exit through the window and its winter so windows are kinda useful right now...
which leads me the point and the title of this post...
Is Civ 5 dead?
Has the Civilization community moved exclusively to Civ 6?
Is there any point at all in a new player bothering to get into the mod scene for Civ 5 ?
Did Disney/Pixar design Civ 6?
Should I abandon all hope for my new Civs? Or save them for civ 6 or even 7?
Is there room in this world for new civ fanatics or has the door firmly shut for newcomers?
In closing I would just like to say that I feel very exited to join the Civ Community but perhaps I should just wait for Humankind !
Moderator Action: moved, and edited the sentence that was not family friendly -Gedemon
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889
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