Is Political Correctness a Problem in the US?

[kulade]

I was watching the 700 club tonight (which is a Religous Conservative news program). It did a story on libralism in the media. It brought up many distorted text books, of those who said:

1. the US was a creation of Europeans, West Africans and Indians
2. Denied canibalitic practices of some Indian tribes
3. denied Chistianity, or even morals created foundations for the laws and policies
4. And other twisted truths

They said in order to pass a "sensity test" in text books it had to (and i paraphase) "not bring out any negative points on cultures in case of offense to a race." In addition, "tomboy" and "manpower" are "sexist" and Adam and Eve are refferd to as Eve and Adam to keep from man supremacy.

What do you think about this?

 

[Zarn]

Adam came before Eve in birth. That's why his name is first. Actually Eve had 'power' over Adam.

Everything 'politically correct' could be debunked easily, and will offend someone.

 

[kulade]

Adam came before Eve in birth. That's why his name is first. .

Hey, i didn't make this stuff up.

 

[Archer 007]

I was watching the 700 club tonight (which is a Religous Conservative news program). It did a story on libralism in the media. It brought up many distorted text books, of those who said:

1. the US was a creation of Europeans, West Africans and Indians
2. Denied canibalitic practices of some Indian tribes
3. denied Chistianity, or even morals created foundations for the laws and policies
4. And other twisted truths

They said in order to pass a "sensity test" in text books it had to (and i paraphase) "not bring out any negative points on cultures in case of offense to a race." In addition, "tomboy" and "manpower" are "sexist" and Adam and Eve are refferd to as Eve and Adam to keep from man supremacy.

What do you think about this?

Anything from the 700 Club is most likely BS, but I will address the points made anyway.

1. The US was the creation of Indians, Africans, and Europeans
2. The cannibal practices of Indian tribes was largely overblow as an exucse to use them as slave labor
3. Our laws are not based in Christianity.

 

[Chaos_BF1942]

I hate political correctness, it sometimes a double Starndard.

How came a Black comic can make fun of the whiteman race? But if a White comic does the same to a blackman he will probably get booed.

It the same with giving them extra points on some placment-tests or something like that.

 

[amadeus]

I'm offended by everyone being so offended about stupid things.

I live in a state with a lot of farms and agricultural land. I'm not offended if some textbook company prints the word "mountain" in their question sheets.

The U.S. was founded by white, Christian males, not Sackagewea (like you'd expect me to memorize the spelling of that name) and Kofi Annan.

And Adam and Eve should stay in the order they are in, not because of cheauvanism, but because of the Roman alphabet going in that order.

There.

 

[WillJ]

Nothing beats those California public school math textbooks that had to change "snowmen" in their word problems to "snowpersons." (Not sure if that's true; heard it from another forum member.)

My opinion is that PC isn't an especially bad thing, as long as the political correctness doesn't get in the way of actual correctness. An example would be denying that the Aztecs practiced human sacrifice; that's just plain wrong.

Speaking of that, I always thought it was true that no Native American tribes have been known to practice canibalism.

 

[kulade]

Anything from the 700 Club is most likely BS, but I will address the points made anyway.

1. The US was the creation of Indians, Africans, and Europeans
2. The cannibal practices of Indian tribes was largely overblow as an exucse to use them as slave labor
3. Our laws are not based in Christianity.

1. No it was European. How many blacks were in the constitutional convension?
2. Im not saying it was major, it was just never brouhgt up.
3. Our laws are on European decent which is a highly Chistian influenced set of legislation.

 

[Archer 007]

I'm offended by everyone being so offended about stupid things.

I live in a state with a lot of farms and agricultural land. I'm not offended if some textbook company prints the word "mountain" in their question sheets.

The U.S. was founded by white, Christian males, not Sackagewea (like you'd expect me to memorize the spelling of that name) and Kofi Annan.

And Adam and Eve should stay in the order they are in, not because of cheauvanism, but because of the Roman alphabet going in that order.

There.

The natives and Africans played a very large role in the formation of the United States. The Proclaimination of 1763 raised anger toward Britain in the colonies, and it related to the natives. African slavery bitterly devided the nation and played a large role on the development of the constitution.

 

[kulade]

The natives and Africans played a very large role in the formation of the United States. The Proclaimination of 1763 raised anger toward Britain in the colonies, and it related to the natives. African slavery bitterly devided the nation and played a large role on the development of the constitution.

Blacks effected us by being an "industry" and just being there. No there own opinons.

 

[WillJ]

Im not saying it was major, it was just never brouhgt up.

Never brought up? That's quite a bit different that denying that it happened. (And again, I'm not even sure that it DID happen.)

 

[amadeus]

A very large role? What role, other than labor for colonists?

 

[Archer 007]

1. No it was European. How many blacks were in the constitutional convension?
2. Im not saying it was major, it was just never brouhgt up.
3. Our laws are on European decent which is a highly Chistian influenced set of legislation.

1. The counting of slaves in the census helped to raise the power of the South far beyond its voting population would have otherwise.
2. It was so small that it is rather irrlevant in the larger context of history. Its someone you only need to know about if you want to be a history professional.
3. Our laws come for English common law (the decesions of locla judges threw the ages) and Greek/Roman law, which far outdates Christianity.

 

[Archer 007]

I hate political correctness, it sometimes a double Starndard.

How came a Black comic can make fun of the whiteman race? But if a White comic does the same to a blackman he will probably get booed.

It the same with giving them extra points on some placment-tests or something like that.

The first thing you listed is very trie. The second one is not PC, it is racism.

 

[amadeus]

You and I may be looking at different things, I'm looking at the formation and founding of the early United States, not the impact they had 75 years later (as in the case of the rise of the southern states, etc.)

 

[Chaos_BF1942]

The first thing you listed is very trie. The second one is not PC, it is racism.

Well I meant it as the blackman doesn't have to be political correctness in talking about whites or other blacks, But the Whiteman has too be political correctness when talking about Blacks.

it could be a bad exsalmpe

 

[kulade]

Never brought up? That's quite a bit different that denying that it happened. (And again, I'm not even sure that it DID happen.)

A half truth is a whole lie

--Hebrew Proverb

I just think its funny no one ever said anything about it. It was culture, ever in a class on Native North America, canibalism wasn't mentioned, why? I dont think it would offend Indians if someone said something about ancestors eating eachother. Im not offended by the Inquistion or any other stupid this white people do.

 

[Archer 007]

You and I may be looking at different things, I'm looking at the formation and founding of the early United States, not the impact they had 75 years later (as in the case of the rise of the southern states, etc.)

Slave labor impacted the type of industry in the different regions, but that is for another topic. Without the 3/5th deal, the Congress would have been dominated by the North from the get go and the President would be holden to Northern special interests. The Federalist view of American society most likely would have stuck.

 

[kulade]

Well I meant it as the blackman doesn't have to be political correctness in talking about whites or other blacks, But the Whiteman has too be political correctness when talking about Blacks.

it could be a bad exsalmpe

Sometime they get offended when you don't call them "African American," and they're all cussing out eachother w/ racial slurs!

 

[amadeus]

Slave labor impacted the type of industry in the different regions, but that is for another topic. Without the 3/5th deal, the Congress would have been dominated by the North from the get go and the President would be holden to Northern special interests. The Federalist view of American society most likely would have stuck.

I'm not arguing with you, I'm saying we're looking at two different time periods. When I think of the formation of the U.S., I don't think of anything past 1800, I'm thinking from 1600 to 1790.