Lump Sum or Gold Per Turn?

[ccubed]

I'm wondering what people's experiences are with trading resources. Getting money up front with a lump sum trade gives you immediate cash to spend, but gold per turn can sometimes significantly weaken the other civ in the long term. I've seen another civ go into the red because I was siphoning gpt from them as they expanded and didn't have the money to pay for upkeep. I also suspect this caused them to build and work more tradeposts than they normally might. On the other hand, if you leave them with gpt by taking the upfront money, they might have money after the agreement to buy your luxuries again.

So what are other people's thoughts and tips with regards to selling luxuries and other resources? Also, what approximate amounts are people getting at different speeds and difficulties? I seem to top out at 300 gold / 10 gpt at standard speed King difficulty for happiness items, and about 15 gold per horse. Not sure on strategic resource costs, however.

 

[aimlessgun]

10gpt is the max, yea.

I always go for the lump sum if they have the cash. I don't know if making them go into the red would really matter enough to be worth delaying the payment. I'd rather have the gold quickly so I can use it to start producing stuff which could make more gold (best is the Arabs: rush buy a Bazaar, sell the new resources to rush buy another Bazaar! repeat until AI is tapped out as soon as you discover Currency)

Also if they declare war on me, or they get destroyed by another civ, I have the full payment already.

 

[Tylerryan79]

I get my 300 right then and there. Everytime I'm nice and let them give me gpt when they don't have the money they usually end up going 25 in the red and I'm $&@! Out of luck.

 

[pi-r8]

the weirdest thing is when I try and trade them money now for gpt, and they offer something like 5gpt over 30 turns for 200 gold now. Why would I ever want to take that trade?

 

[aimlessgun]

It's like reverse interest!

I noticed that too, I guess the programming that makes them ask for lopsided deals spills into 'loan' deals. It is definitely a lot more frustrating to essentially trade 200 gold for 150 gold than something like overpriced Iron though.

 

[vendur]

the weirdest thing is when I try and trade them money now for gpt, and they offer something like 5gpt over 30 turns for 200 gold now. Why would I ever want to take that trade?

Probably cause they know how likey you are to attack them and break the deal within a few turns? Or at least are coded to seem as such.

I only take GPT when they don't have the cash on hand to fill my coffers.

 

[pi-r8]

Probably cause they know how likey you are to attack them and break the deal within a few turns? Or at least are coded to seem as such.

I only take GPT when they don't have the cash on hand to fill my coffers.

No, i mean I'm giving THEM gold now. If I break the deal it's even better for them! If we dont' break the deal, the money I get over 30 turns is less than what they get right now! Is this supposed to help me cheat on my taxes, or something?