M-10 Tank "killer" Regiment

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Ok I am going to point this out again

If it has armor and tracks and some type of high caliber it is a tank by my definition everything else is just details!! :lol:

BTW all tanks are tank killers.....duhhhh unless this happens :spear:
 
ahh got you marine.

But come on all tanks were designed to destroy other tanks. Yes this is a tank killer because of it's large bore cannon. But you win Marine.

@ Goldflash I have no Idea why you got a flaming warning? Didn't offend me.
 
Drivebymaster said:
ahh got you marine.

But come on all tanks were designed to destroy other tanks. Yes this is a tank killer because of it's large bore cannon. But you win Marine.
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:lol: Don't look at me. It's weird to me why they would have two seperate types for the same class. This is what A friend said on the subject. He knows more then me on this. I knew the very very basics.

12/29/2004 9:57:06 PM thorgrimm MarineCorps penetration and breaking of the enemy lines, maneuver and overrun the enemy units. Tanks could also provide support to infantry units, TD's could not.
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There were specialized units that excelled in tank killing, worthless in any other roles, And the M-10 was one of them. They were called tank destroyers. According to army doctrine, tank destroyer units were to be fast moving elements which placed a bare minimum of their guns in fixed position and held a maximum in mobile reserve. The tank destroyer motto was "Seek-Strike-Destroy" which adequately describes their proposed mission, that of aggressive reconnaissance.
penetration and breaking of the enemy lines, maneuver and overrun the enemy units. Tanks could also provide support to infantry units, TD's could not.
HUGE cannons, they are DEFENSIVE units, assigned to AT BN's or TD BN's. They are not meant for an offensive role.
consider them mobile at platforms
As a general rule, the tank destroyer mounts a larger gun, but is usually slower and protected with less armor than a tank, which is where production costs were saved.
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12/29/2004 10:04:43 PM MarineCorps thorgrimm Yeah. I remember hearing that General couldn't tell the difference between the two.

12/29/2004 10:05:21 PM thorgrimm MarineCorps dude, the M-10 was open topped, if you can't tell the difference, get off the battlefield. :D

12/29/2004 10:06:58 PM MarineCorps thorgrimm I knew but never gave it a thought

12/29/2004 10:07:13 PM thorgrimm MarineCorps lol

12/29/2004 10:07:42 PM thorgrimm MarineCorps that is why it was used in defensive units. if the enemy has any air, they are screwed. :D

12/29/2004 10:08:35 PM MarineCorps thorgrimm Yeah.

12/29/2004 10:08:43 PM thorgrimm MarineCorps The US Army employed 60 battalions of tank destroyers during World War II.

12/29/2004 10:09:42 PM MarineCorps thorgrimm How large it a battalion?

12/29/2004 10:10:54 PM thorgrimm MarineCorps 3 line compaines and an HQ company. Anywhere between 36 and 48 machines, depending on what time period you are asking about.

12/29/2004 10:11:02 PM thorgrimm MarineCorps companies

12/29/2004 10:11:41 PM MarineCorps thorgrimm Duh, WW2:p;)

12/29/2004 10:11:45 PM thorgrimm MarineCorps lets put it this way, the US TD BN's outnumbered ALL German AFV's in WW2. :D

12/29/2004 10:12:08 PM thorgrimm MarineCorps no, butthead what YEAR in WW2 :D

12/29/2004 10:12:41 PM MarineCorps thorgrimm You said time period butthead.:p

12/29/2004 10:12:53 PM MarineCorps thorgrimm 1942

12/29/2004 10:14:54 PM thorgrimm MarineCorps in 42 they were 36
12/29/2004 10:15:05 PM thorgrimm MarineCorps they increased over time
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OK on Tank Destroyers,

but then if they are used in Civ3 together with "normal" tanks,
what are you gents suggestions on stats for the TD to compare with tanks.

The use of having both at the same time getting the AI to use both, is what I'm thinking on should be the key for the stats.

Happy for all opinions....

Cemo
 
cemo1956 said:
OK on Tank Destroyers,

but then if they are used in Civ3 together with "normal" tanks,
what are you gents suggestions on stats for the TD to compare with tanks.

The use of having both at the same time getting the AI to use both, is what I'm thinking on should be the key for the stats.

Happy for all opinions....

Cemo
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Strong on defense. weak on offense.
 
Drivebymaster said:
Ahh gotcha Thorgrimm knows his stuff I only know the basics the only tanks I knew are tank killers were the Sturmtiger and the T-28 Supertank US's
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Sturmtiger isn't antitank, it is more of an assault gun, with a large caliber gun used to destroy strongholds and to be used in urban fighting.
If it hit a tank though, the tank'd be toast, but it'd have to hit it first :)
 
MarineCorps said:
Strong on defense. weak on offense.
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But since it didn't have particularly good armor, shouldn't it be the other way around?

I'm leaning more towards slightly higher attack, slightly worse defence and "stealth attack" on other tanks.
 
I think it should be viewed tank per tank, not TD in general.
Some of them were designed with defence in mind, some not, I don't think much can be said in general actually.

The jumping of the german tiger can be represented by the stealth attack btw ;)
 
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