New Civ I Archive Preview

Nice site, but what is the "CivNet Stability Patch"/"The civnet killer"?
http://www.geocities.com/jvaldeztoo/cph/CSArchives/CivNet/CivNet.htm said:
CivNet Stability Patch
No more lockups in CivNet, and no more worries.

File: civnetk.zip (85K)
Inside the zip is: CIVNETK.EXE
And when you run it, the About page says:
The Civnet Killer - Beta 3
The Civnet Killer was written after weeks and weeks of frustration at having to reboot CivNet whenever it crashed or using Task Pro to unload the DLLs one at a time. It was written by Greg Dunlap (GDD on #civnet.) Rob Warmowski did the outrageously appropriate icon. If you find this app useful (and you will!) just drop me a line at gdd@tezcat.com and let me know you're using it.

The Civnet Killer was written in half and hour using Borland's Delphi 1.0 for Windows. Delphi rules, screw Visual Basic.

It's just that the description "CivNet Stability Patch" doesn't really match the download.
 
It is often the case that the wishes of programmers and their material are not what users expect. I believe the function was meant to bring stability to the game despite the term "killer" which ironically implies destruction. Of course, all freeware is 'as is' and no guarantees. I am still trying to figure out how to use that old game editor for Civ I.

Best regards,

CivPartisan
 
I'm sorry, i should have explained my point a little better.
Your description of the download, and the program itself, don't match in any way.

Again: your description says:
CivNet Stability Patch
No more lockups in CivNet, and no more worries.
The file itself says:
The Civnet Killer - Beta 3
The Civnet Killer was written after weeks and weeks of frustration at having to reboot CivNet whenever it crashed or using Task Pro to unload the DLLs one at a time.

It is NOT a case of the programmer to wish it to be not what the user to expect (a statement i have never heard before either)
The programmer is quite straightforward that his program "kills" civnet, by unloading all the modules (i assume to be used after the game crashes)

It doesn't "ironically imply destruction", it literally destroys the modules left loaded after the game crashes.

It is not a patch, and in no way claims stability.
Either the description on your website is wrong, or you've uploaded the wrong file.
 
Hey Good People,

Before Apolyton killed its pages for Civnet, this was a download (exactly as stated at Apolyton is how I listed on the page at CPH). It is also available at: http://www.sidoine.net/civ/civmaj/1 a cute little French site called Civilopolis.

Nympholept,
I know that it can be frustrating to download something and not get what you want. I can certainly change the name of the download if that is what you are getting at, but remember a patch is often thought of as a "fix" which is a very loose term. Patch does not really imply anything gets fixed, nor does it imply that your program will operate better or even the way you want it to after using it. Sometimes the magic works, sometimes it doesn't. Ask the guys at Microsoft, their still trying to figure out the meaning of the word patch.

I always recommend that you try it. If it doesn't work, throw it away and if you find something better, let me know. I would even change the name to exactly what you post here if that will make you feel better--maybe we could call it "module killer" or "after crash thingy" --just tell me what you want and we can do it. I pay for the site myself, without any support from viewers-- keep that in mind. CPH is truly a labor of love and it is a lot of work.

To all,
It's also a download that has been offered on a number of other sites throughout time with other obscure Civ I downloads, so I offer it as well. I am working to archive these downloads on the site for the one person who on the off-chance needs it.

If you are a programmer, help us...we need more CivNet downloads...make a difference, make a better patch and it will fill the need. Let this be a call to all for programmers and for all downloads--as always--your fruits of labor are needed.

Best regards,

CivPartisan
 
This has nothing to do with being frustrated from downloading something and not getting what i want - it happens all the time, and it doesn't faze me, it's a normal part of the internet experience.
Although now you mention it, it's a little frustrating when i try to inform someone of something, and they continually miss the point. (a vital part of the internet experience too - you should get a job with ebay customer service)

I can certainly change the name of the download if that is what you are getting at
Well, that's more or less exactly what i said.
My whole point this time has been that you seem to have an erroneous description for the download.
remember a patch is often thought of as a "fix" which is a very loose term. Patch does not really imply anything gets fixed, nor does it imply that your program will operate better or even the way you want it to after using it. Sometimes the magic works, sometimes it doesn't. Ask the guys at Microsoft, their still trying to figure out the meaning of the word patch.
I'm unsure what you're trying to say here.
Are you trying to justify calling that program a "patch" by arguing that the definition of the word "patch" isn't clear?
http://www.google.com/search?q=define:patch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patch_(computing)
That program does not match ANY definition of the word patch in any way at all.
It doesn't try to do anything magic, that's the point. It's not a patch, it doesn't try to be a patch, the programmers never intended for it to be called a patch. You're the only one calling it that.

If you really don't know what the word patch means: then great, consider yourself further educated on this fine day, i was happy to be a part of the expansion of your understanding of words.

I would even change the name to exactly what you post here if that will make you feel better--maybe we could call it "module killer" or "after crash thingy" --just tell me what you want and we can do it.
Why not call it "The Civ Killer", as the creator named it, and describe exactly what it does, instead of making up names and descriptions that bear no relation to the actual program?

Keep up the good work.
 
Thanks Nympholept,

Your information is not only clear but well thought out. I will get right on it and fix the link and change the name to "Civ Killer" as you suggest. I have no excuse for messing up like this other than CPH is a hobby of mine. I should be more astute and try to please people more, but I really just spend my free time on the website for fun and the philanthropic act of sharing.

If you would like to post a suitable description here, I can place that on the site as well to make it even better. Truly, it is everyone's site in my opinion and I don't mind carrying the weight, so please make any comments you think will make the site better.

I refuse to work for ebay though, not enough benefits.

Best regards,

CivPartisan
 
Hey Good People,

CivNet page updated!!!

Go here to see it. I even took off from work early to get it done :D

Thanks for the tip, nympholept! ;)

Best to all,

CivPartisan
 
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