Preventing a Diplomatic Loss

[HappyBuilder]

Ok, here's the situation:

The world is in a state of near total war on a Standard map, 7 civs retain their capital. All city-states are aligned with one of three civs - me, Arabia, or India. Arabia has enough city-states to win diplomatically and the UN clock is on. It's an archipelago map, but as England, I control the seas. What are my options?

I can't bribe my way to victory as I can't make peace with either India or Arabia. All of their city-states are beyond my influence.

I don't think I can destroy enough city-states in time to negate Arabia's edge.

I could probably take Mecca and the UN in an all out assault, but would that eliminate Arabia from the vote? Even the loss of those 3 votes would not be enough to prevent their victory unless loss of capital is immediate disqualification.

I can't win by any other means inside of 10 turns.

If the loss of one's capital is not an immediate disqualification, is this game lost? Thanks.

HB

 

[Uberfrog]

Capital loss will not disqualify you from a vote: you have to completely remove him from the game.

Is the UN in Mecca? If so, taking it might remove the extra vote he gets from having built the UN (it might even give it to you!), but I can't say for sure, since I've never tried it.

If he has more than enough votes, and you have not nearly enough, then you have probably lost. But modern age wars can happen pretty fast if you have a decent army. You might be able to remove enough CS from play, or liberate a CS or civ (guaranteed vote). Never surrender!

 

[chazzycat]

best bet would seem to be conquering enemy CS. Your prospects seem dim...it might be too late for this game, but lesson learned for next time right? Generally if any AI reach the modern age, you want to be checking the victory screen very often and monitoring the number of CS allies for each AI. Turning around a bad city state situation takes time, so you want to be aware of the problem before it gets that late.

 

[HappyBuilder]

Ok, this worked well...sacked Mecca, sacked 2 nearby city-states, and caught Siam by surprise and took out their capital, eeking out the diplo win myself by jumping up to hit the minimum required. And now...a diabolical laugh. Mwahahaha. MWAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

BTW. Couldn't have done it without the bombers. Combined with my armada, I didn't have to fight a ground war. I just attacked everything in striking distance and sent a few melee troops into the water to clean up the spoils. Rule Brittania!

 

[KillingMeSoftly]

Diplomatic win through violence, bloodshed, and conquest!

 

[Bechhold]

Diplomatic win through violence, bloodshed, and conquest!

Basically this. Just conquer as much and woo the city states, if they don't then Tanks will suffice.

 

[Unhappy Ood]

When in doubt, attack

 

[ObadiahtheSlim]

I remember a few diplo wins in Civ 4 where I won by copping off a large enough chunk off the 2nd place guy to get the votes. There's a reason I call them diplomation.