State of the Union Address

[Pellaken]

My first State of the Onion address. Yes, I'm aware I spelt it Onion... but its funnier that way

Rant:
The romans have only 1 city on that island there. I suspect that they may be from somewhere else. I'd say to the north east of that city. I also would like to explore that lip of land behind unkowen city. I'd like to use a techniuqe here too, one where we cover the maximim ammount of sea, while revealing the minimum ammount of coast. it will allow more 'lips' of land to become visible, so we have a track for further exploration. I'd also like to try to find where the English, Zulus, and Chinese are. I'd also like to find out where the 'other' nation is, and what it is. I'd like to ask also that the cabinet post polls that will allow me to play for many turns if I decide to do so. I'd also like to ask for permission to rename the city Mpondo, and the perrogitive to rename any captured cities. I'd also ask the Gov's if they could send me links to thier most recent polls. I'm not 100% sure how the polls work, and I hope its explained. if we have queues {spelling?} that will be like :first build this, and that, etc...

Also, currentley, Olympia and THDP are producing a wonder, the same one. is there a reason for this???


demographs:
as I requested, I will now post demographs

Name-Food-Shields-Trade--shields in production
Dreadtown-23-6-7--32
Olympia-14-9-9--25
THDP-27-7-17--42
Potopolia-21-8-8--0
Athenae-24-6-7--18
Hippoville-15-8-7--12
Fort Pornstar-17-7-9--28
Spycatcher-18-6-4--25
Cornmaster-16-4-4--36
Sixchan-11-5-4--36
Unkown City-13-6-4--0
Joespaniel-12-5-4--8
Mpondo-11-4-3--8
Dellville-5-3-3--3
NATIONAL TOTALS-227-84-90--273
Trade Cities:
THDP
Production Cities:
Olympia
Food Cities:
THDP
Population Cities:
THDP

Income=50 Spending=25 Tax=40%
By City:
Income-Spending
Dellville-1-0
THDP-10-5
Olympia-6-3
Potpolia-4-3
Hippoville-4-3
Athenae-4-3
Dreadtown-4-2
Fort Pornstar 5-3
Cornmaster-2-0
Sixchan-2-1
Spycather-2-1
Mpondo-1-0
Unkown-2-1
By Building:
10 temples-10
7 marketplaces-7
5 libraries-5
1 courthouse-1
1 aqueduct-2

Total Science a turn, 64
Discoveries, 12 turns

Land Area: 480,000 Sq,miles
about the size of angola...

Shield Spending:
+Trade-17-19.8%
Wonder Prod-14-16.3%
Mil support-14-16.3%
Mil Prod-13-15.1%
+Science-11-12.8%
+Food-9-10.5%
Courthouse-4-4.7%
+Happy-2-2.3%
WASTE-2-2.2%
total-86

Trade lost-out of
34-124=27.4%

If the minister of interior wishes, I can make up a trade-chart. with all cities, thier demands, etc.



The Poll:
the poll refers to the "Government Test Cheat" but it also applies to roads, rails, mines, irrigation, etc...
In order to see the effects of something. I would:
Save the game
Save the game under a different name
Quit Civ
Open Civ
Open that new save game
Open the ceat menu
Change the thing in question {government for example}
and take new demographics. We know what will happen if you build a road here or tehre, so I see this as only fair, as we are only seeing what a government will do. I will not play ahead any turns, if we need a 1 turn advance, I will save the game 1 turn before I end the round. This way we can know what each government will do. we can do the same for luxeries, etc... please vote yes if you think its ok, and no if you dont.


The Axis of Evil:
Everyone but us

 

[Pellaken]

poll found here

 

[Mr Spice]

Originally posted by Pellaken

Also, currentley, Olympia and THDP are producing a wonder, the same one. is there a reason for this???

Yes. THDP is supposed to switch to Copernicus as soon as we get Astronomy. Olympia was choosen to build JSB, but may switch to another wonder if we decide so.

Edit: When thinking more about it I believe we decided on Olympia to build Leonardo´s Workshop, but I am not completely sure.

 

[Dell19]

Originally posted by Mr Spice


Yes. THDP is supposed to switch to Copernicus as soon as we get Astronomy. Olympia was choosen to build JSB, but may switch to another wonder if we decide so.

You were right first time. The only way Olympia will change its wonder production now is if Kev does another poll...Or I am proven to be wrong...

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by Dell19


You were right first time. The only way Olympia will change its wonder production now is if Kev does another poll...Or I am proven to be wrong...

This should be the case. As new wonders become available, I'll poll about the building of such (a la Cope's).

The most recent poll has us delayed in using caravans for wonders until Cope's is available and then rushing it in THDP. I've PMed Pellaken as such.

Pellaken: No need for trade stuff. If we have a commodity caravan built, I'll put up a poll on delivery and I'll check the game myself to include demanding cities.

Further, I would prefer if you did NOT use the cheat to check on effects of changing government. To keep this somewhat realistic, I think we should base our decisions on our own feelings - not comparing specific numbers. In the real world, countries that establish new governments are not given such information before they do so.