what about espionage

[brianshapiro]

I haven't read everything about features in Civ4; I was wondering what they planned for espionage; whether there would be actual spy/diplomat units, or just a screen like in Civ3

 

[Savage Discipil]

I haven't read everything about features in Civ4; I was wondering what they planned for espionage; whether there would be actual spy/diplomat units, or just a screen like in Civ3

There is a new spy unit,but I dont know what its general role
is in the game though.

 

[strhopper]

Yeah I havent heard anything new........just that they have change the spy stuff

 

[Yusaku Jon III]

I'm kind of hoping for a spy unit rather than the screen menu myself. I'd be using it as a recon unit in anticipation of potential hostilities from bordering AI.

 

[Deep_Blue]

How the spy unit wil work? do you have to send it to each city to do missions like investigate or sabotage .. etc . If so it will take so long for your spy to complete a mission because he has to march to the target city , and if we suppose that a spy unit will have 1 or 2 movement points it will take something like 20 turns to reach a far city. That makes espionage useless because most of the time you need an espionage mission for something urgent (like sabotage production of a spacecraft part to catch up with space race)

 

[Phoenix_56721]

I like the idea of a spy unit added to the game, also I would like to see things like U2-spy planes and Satilites later on in the game. As to how long a spy unit could take to move, thier should be ways of hurry their movements, like being dropped out of a plane behind enemies lines or hitch a ride on a Submarine. Early units might have to ride a horse to atleast the enemies border's, or maybe the horse and the unit are stealthy making it much faster to get to the city of iterest.

 

[strhopper]

myabe a spy unit and spy screen????

 

[Aussie_Lurker]

Well, I for one hope that its not entirely Unit-based, because this seems to defeat the purpose of removing Micromanagement in other areas of the game (i.e. why remove MM in pollution/corruption, when you are simply gonna add it to the espionage part of the game?) As it will definitely have a unit component, I just hope it will be a 'plant spy' in a city, then that spy operates off its own back until such time as you 'recall' it or it gets exposed. I think that would work OK. Anyway, only time will tell I guess!!

Yours,
Aussie_Lurker.

 

[GeneralX]

Whatever form espionage takes my big hope is that we have access to more information on our “neighbours” to make informed tactical and strategic decisions, and perhaps a better way of displaying it (dossiers). I have never been truly happy with past espionage options as I never felt as if the Civ world (I, II and III) properly reflected the real world in terms of how espionage/counter-espionage was practiced.

 

[Aussie_Lurker]

Actually, GeneralX, this brings me to another important information in regards to espionage. I feel the whole espionage system would be a HECK of a lot more important if you had free info about other civs. i.e. in order to learn anything important about a civ, you must either have an embassy or a spy planted. In fact, even an embassy should only give you some 'global' info about a civ, but nothing about individual cities (unless you are in some kind of alliance). Learning about specific cities-outside of alliances-should require the planting of a spy.
It occurs to me that I am rambling a bit, but I hope the gist of my idea makes sense.

Yours,
Aussie_Lurker.

 

[KrikkitTwo]

Well thinks like trade agreements should also provide free infomation. I mean the US can find out exactly what is being built in a German city without much effort