Please give me advices T_T

[Cissnei]

Pls can you give me advices and tips on playing? I will start a new game and i really want to improve
I want to play as Japan (22 civilizations with King difficulty on biggest map with continents)
Achieve culture or diplomacy victory
Adopt Tradition, Commerce and Autocracy
Not have more then 6-8 cities
Build stonehange to have my own religion (shinto)
Have happy citizens
Have alot of great people
Have nukes before everyone else

Please... Don't want to ruin another gameTT

 

[Unresolved]

First thing you might want to do is to choose whether you want a culture or diplomatic victory. A lot of your goals are contradictory and you can't achieve all of them in one game. CV's are very different than diplomatic victories because you need to play fundamentally different. If you go diplomatic, you're probably not going to be getting a huge amount of GPs and you probably won't go for nukes(not sure where Atomic Theory is on the tree). If you're going for a CV, you probably won't have autocracy or nukes.

 

[Cissnei]

i really want to have nukes first and adopt autocracy and tradition (i dont care that much about commerce~) but i dont want to have many wars and be aggressive. i dont want technology or domination victory T_T I think i would like Culture Victory most

 

[Unresolved]

Errr, I'm not really sure how you can get nukes and a culture game at the same time. Usually CV's have lower bpt than any other victory. And culture games go for Freedom, not Autocracy.

 

[Cissnei]

Ok thanks for replying but i still want to have nukes as first and culture/diplomacy victory

 

[JJOne]

Diplomatic victory, as well as scientific victory can be ok with nukes and autocracy - late liberating some civs and city states so that they vote for you. Or annexing the same for scientific. Practically both would be domination victories in disguise.
I don't think you can easily get cultural victory with autocracy though. Autocracy makes sense if you annex, and then your sp cost will go sky high. And if you stay small you would have been better off with freedom.

 

[Smokeybear]

If you drop down to warlord or chief difficulty, you could probably pull it off with all of those contradictory and unhelpful things you insist on having in the same game. But at King? You're not going to win that way, sorry.

 

[Cissnei]

So why they even put nukes in the game if you cant have them and win?

 

[Cissnei]

I want the most peaceful victory and i know technology victory is impossible if i build nukes because im so far behind. I also dont really like technology victory

 

[DudewiththeFood]

You can have nukes and win - just not as a CV above Prince.

 

[whyidie]

Pls can you give me advices and tips on playing? I will start a new game and i really want to improve
I want to play as Japan (22 civilizations with King difficulty on biggest map with continents)
Achieve culture or diplomacy victory
Adopt Tradition, Commerce and Autocracy
Not have more then 6-8 cities
Build stonehange to have my own religion (shinto)
Have happy citizens
Have alot of great people
Have nukes before everyone else

Lets look at your requirements individually.

I want to play as Japan (22 civilizations with King difficulty on biggest map with continents)

Not too bad...you can do it!

Achieve culture or diplomacy victory

Japan isn't the greatest for these victory types, but you can still do it!

Adopt Tradition, Commerce and Autocracy

Tradition, Commerce, and Autocracy can work with diplomatic victory! Makes it hard to get cultural victory. Can still do it but becomes very much harder!

Not have more then 6-8 cities

More cities means it will be harder for culture victory. 4 or less is easier for culture. 6-8 cities is better for diplomacy victory.

Build stonehange to have my own religion (shinto)

Stonehenge isn't required to get a religion. Shinto is not a high priority for any Civ except for Japan, so it should be easy to get Shinto. You can do it even with just shrines! Make shrines in each city a priority if you don't get stonehenge.

Have happy citizens

With less 6-8 cities you can do it! Use religion choices which give you happy. Try to build cities where there are luxuries, even ones you already have. Be active on trade with AI to buy their extra copies or trade for them. Make friends with happy city states.

Have alot of great people

You can do it! How many is a lot ? You can do it!

Have nukes before everyone else

This is harder but if you focus on technologies that will get you there in the mid game you can still do it.


Overall I'd say diplomatic victory is your best option. Tradition, Patronage, Commerce, Autocracy are the areas I would focus.

Religion choices I would focus on happy and money.

Diplomacy will be important. Focus on city state quests. Try to complete them as much as possible. Keep your spies in city states. Happy ones if you aren't happy enough. Otherwise choose the ones that will help you with defense.

If your science is bad use one spy for a competing civ who is good at science. Once he gets caught, move him to another civ that is good at science. Keep doing this until you can't steal. It will help you get nukes. Don't use spies to protect your cities. Use them for stealing and for city states.

Try not to be too friendly with the warmongers. Be friendly with people who do not aggressive. Focus on building shrines until you get shinto. Then focus on money buildings. Then Science buildings. Don't forget about military! Make sure to have at least 5 ranged and 4 melee until you get to flight. Then you will need planes for defense. This is on same path to nukes so you should get there!

Hooray!

 

[joncnunn]

Pls can you give me advices and tips on playing? I will start a new game and i really want to improve
I want to play as Japan (22 civilizations with King difficulty on biggest map with continents)
Achieve culture or diplomacy victory
Adopt Tradition, Commerce and Autocracy
Not have more then 6-8 cities
Build stonehange to have my own religion (shinto)
Have happy citizens
Have alot of great people
Have nukes before everyone else

Please... Don't want to ruin another gameTT

As others have mentioned; the Culture victory does't fit well with many of these items.
Cultural victory without Liberty is best as an OCC [with an optional puppet empire attached]. (Without the liberty policy that reduces per city cultural cost, even a second city with a wonder isn't going to offset the increase in cultural policy cost.)

Stonehenge is very doable on King; but care needs taken to avoid slowing down National College.

A lot of great people: That's easy just fill the science and/or engineer slots.

Nukes is just science; (and hope that uranium is either in your territory or a city state.)

Happy is just avoiding building cities too fast and if your conquering razing "junk cities" and building extra happiness structures you can afford to keep the decent ones. Also if your planning on building 6 to 8 cities yourself, you'll want one of those follower beliefs that can give you 2 happiness in every city you own after you spread your religion to them and build the required item. (There are multiple ones that do so).

Autocracy: That doesn't open until Industrial era; that's a long way in the future; I take it that's when your planning on starting your offensive wars? Also its much more suitable for a domination victory.

 

[Cissnei]

thanks for replies, i already started new game and i will post screenshot tomorrow with explanation

 

[Cissnei]

Thanks for advices whyidie and jeoncnunn
I'm posting screenshots from a game i started yesterday I'm allied wiht 10 city states now and i aim for diplomacy victory
http://i.imgur.com/848apkR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/x538x9p.jpg
Though it seems so strong, China, Germany, Rome, Persia and Korea are ahead of me
Somehow China has 50 citizens in capital... They are the strongest civ, with 200 points above me
Most of the units i have were gifted and i spend way too much of money on meinteinence
Help me with money pls T_T And tell me what I'm doing wrong. I have so many not upgraded units because i have almost no money

 

[joncnunn]

Thanks for advices whyidie and jeoncnunn
I'm posting screenshots from a game i started yesterday I'm allied wiht 10 city states now and i aim for diplomacy victory
http://i.imgur.com/848apkR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/x538x9p.jpg
Though it seems so strong, China, Germany, Rome, Persia and Korea are ahead of me
Somehow China has 50 citizens in capital... They are the strongest civ, with 200 points above me
Most of the units i have were gifted and i spend way too much of money on meinteinence
Help me with money pls T_T And tell me what I'm doing wrong. I have so many not upgraded units because i have almost no money

Score system meangless in Civ V. Check the Demographics screen; since it's late game, you want to be first in literacy. And if your going for domination, you also want to be first in military strength since its at least Atomic Era.

As to the units; that's way too many units per city; either go to war with someone to conquer some cities to spread out of the costs among more cities (and perhaps lose a couple) or disband or gift to city states some.

 

[Cissnei]

Literacy is number of technologies? I'm 2 technologies behind Rome, 1 behind Korea and have the same as few civilizations. I have 4th strongest army... and 2nd or 3rd population (first is China). I cant launch the game right now to make sure... Rome and China are overall much ahead of me. I think Rome wants technology victory and China culture. And i just declared war on Spain to finally take their capital and get rid of some units
I will be playing alot now because I'm sick TT so i will be updating this thread

 

[whyidie]

Thanks for advices whyidie and jeoncnunn
I'm posting screenshots from a game i started yesterday I'm allied wiht 10 city states now and i aim for diplomacy victory
http://i.imgur.com/848apkR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/x538x9p.jpg
Though it seems so strong, China, Germany, Rome, Persia and Korea are ahead of me
Somehow China has 50 citizens in capital... They are the strongest civ, with 200 points above me
Most of the units i have were gifted and i spend way too much of money on meinteinence
Help me with money pls T_T And tell me what I'm doing wrong. I have so many not upgraded units because i have almost no money

You have Shinto! Good job! Culture is good, science is good. Even if its not best, its good considering your goals.

Somehow China has 50 citizens in capital... They are the strongest civ, with 200 points above me

Wow, they are doing something I haven't seen out of them before. Usually see them stay small with number of cities, but have not seen them be so good at growing them large.

Most of the units i have were gifted and i spend way too much of money on meinteinence

That is a large number of units. Don't spoil your good diplomatic standing just to get rid of them. Gift them to non-allied city states if they need them in a war. The good news is I'm guessing this has been a good peace game ? With the size of your military the AI is probably focusing on weaker Civs.

You can also tell military city states to stop gifting you units. Extreme measure, maybe easier just to take units and gift them to other CS or simply disband them.


For gold you are doing the right thing in building markets/banks in smaller cities. Turn them into gold only.

Also, would suggest you trade some of your happy for gold. 36 happy is strong, see if you can trade some of your luxuries for gold per turn or gold from the AI. This will give you time to build banks and markets. Trading with the AI will also limit their gold for buying city states as well as limit the strength of their military to a small degree.

 

[Cissnei]

Thanks^^ Yes Its been peaceful.. But still some civilizations think I'm warmongering because i've had few wars. Only real wars against England and Spain
I started a new war against Spain and i want to take their capital because all they do is denounce me.
All 36 happiness is from city states, i traded all i could have
I don't know how China can have so many people in Bejing. They also built more than 10 wonders there. I'm really curious about them and i will send a scout there

 

[smallfish]

You have a lot of units doing nothing on Nara. Use them on someone or something

 

[whyidie]

Thanks^^ Yes Its been peaceful.. But still some civilizations think I'm warmongering because i've had few wars. Only real wars against England and Spain
I started a new war against Spain and i want to take their capital because all they do is denounce me.

Well not bad. If Spain is bothering that much it will help with money problems. Will hurt diplomacy with other Civs, but city states are the key to diplomatic victory.

All 36 happiness is from city states, i traded all i could have
I don't know how China can have so many people in Bejing. They also built more than 10 wonders there. I'm really curious about them and i will send a scout there

If you have even traded even to the last of your luxuries you are probably stuck for awhile. In hard times I have chosen a social policy that will save me money, even if its on a path I did not want to pursue. How far are you from a money saving or making social policy ?

You can also consider changing some farms in Tokyo to trading posts. I like big cities though so I rarely do it these days.

Using any of your citizens in money specialist slots ? This can also help if you are willing to delay growth or science. I will only do this if I am out of money and am making negative gold per turn. Also, change the focus of your citizens so they are working gold tiles until banks/markets are up.

Banks and markets you are building will help. Build the national treasury as well. If you have a chance, go for Big Ben. I am rarely able to get it as the AI really likes this wonder. Even without Big Ben, markets, banks, and national treasury will have you in good fortune.

Critical factor is how long you can wait. If you can wait, stick with banks/markets, national treasury, and social policies.

If you can't wait, use the specialist slots and trading posts.

I don't know how China can have so many people in Bejing. They also built more than 10 wonders there. I'm really curious about them and i will send a scout there

This is the biggest I have ever seen China. I have seen some AI cities at 50 but very rare. You have a unique game going.

How is diplomacy with other AI ? Do you have at least a couple who are good friends ? Having even 1 AI vote for you in diplomatic victory is helpful. As you get close to building the UN and you don't have any reliable allies through peace, I would consider befriending the most hated warmongering AI. There is usually at least 1 AI who everyone will hate more than the human.