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Question is: are Civ V mods comparable to mods for Skyrim, in terms of production and content?
So, wait... are people now angry at Steam for forcing modders to charge money for mods they would have otherwise been able to give away for free? As opposed to being angry at modders for daring to actually charge money for their time and effort, instead of being forced to give away their creations for free
Question is: are Civ V mods comparable to mods for Skyrim, in terms of production and content?
I don't think Steam is forcing them; just giving the option. Anyway, give Chesko all the monies.
some guy on nexus posted this (his SMIM mod is one of the "core mods" for skyrim, 4 million downloads)
Announcement: SMIM will always, ALWAYS, remain totally free to download on Skyrim Nexus. Steam Workshop now allows charging real money for mods. I am still debating if I should allow users to pay $0.25 to $2.00 on Steam Workshop for SMIM. But remember, SMIM will always be free on this webpage!
And...you can donate to me if you so desire by using the green Donate button on the top right of the page. No pressure, friends!
this is great. this is how other modders should handle it too...
It does reaffirm my belief that people don't actually like freedom. XD
btw, if you guys are interested in this topic, heres the link to a HUGE discussion on nexus about this. http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.p...odding-for-skyrim-more-games-to-follow/page-1
theres currently a HUGE rage storm against Isoku, a big skyrim modder who did one of the best immersion mods out there for skyrim, because he made his mod paid.
i am also very angry, but the people literally SHRED him in the comments on nexus. being angry is okay, but whats currently going on is more like war....
btw, if you guys are interested in this topic, heres the link to a HUGE discussion on nexus about this. http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.p...odding-for-skyrim-more-games-to-follow/page-1
Hah, I'm pretty sure there isn't anything of real value to learn there. I don't think I've ever seen an emotionally-charged internet thread that actually presented logical, reasoned arguments.
Which is why I find it bizarre that people are angry at Steam for simply giving people more freedom, as opposed to being angry at the people who supposedly misuse or abuse that freedom. It's a viewpoint that I can't actually see any logic behind.
On one hand, people deserve to be paid for their work, but on the other, modding was usually done as proof of concept or a way to pad your portfolio, or simply to have fun. If given a chance, everyone is going to charge for their stuff.
-/u/le_throaway
I really don't like this. I think they should have just added an option to donate to a developer of a mod. Putting stuff like this behind a paywall just seems like Valve trying to get their hands in on a potential profitable market that has always been free. Also the prices are absolutely ridiculous. There's a "debut pack" for Skyrim which is an assortment of 17 weapons, armor, new companions etc., and it is DISCOUNTED to $29. How insane for something that used to just be completely free. And I hate how they're trying to spin it as "supporting modders". Give me a break. I have no doubt Valve will be taking their cut of every single transaction here, which is the real reason why this is happening. EDIT: Wow, the Modders cut is 25% of the total sale. That's insane. Any attempt to call this "supporting modders" is blatantly misleading. I understand 25% is a solid cut for them, I'm mostly irritated at the idea that Valve is clearly just trying to profit off of the modding community and then borderline lie about it.
-/u/Hoser117
How dare you. You're worse than Hitler
Wow. 53 pages in one day.
How dare you. You're worse than Hitler
yeah... 53 pages in 1 day means something...
*changes avatar*
LOOOOL
https://www.change.org/p/valve-remove-the-paid-content-of-the-steam-workshop
theres already a petition... and 6500 of 7500 already signed it. in less than 5 hours over 6000 people signed up ...
Which is why I find it bizarre that people are angry at Steam for simply giving people more freedom, as opposed to being angry at the people who supposedly misuse or abuse that freedom. It's a viewpoint that I can't actually see any logic behind.
The comment I made in itself was rather facetious, but I was drawing parallels between your comment and getting angry at a Government that deregulates Hard Drug/Guns as opposed to being angry at those who distribute or misuse Guns/Drugs. In that sense - we can see it being rather logical for people to not be too happy with the former.
Anyway, regarding freedom - giving people the freedom to charge for their products isn't really freedom when Valve takes the overwhelming majority of the cut. Semantically speaking, sure - Valve is giving people the opportunity to do something that they didn't have before. In this sense it is "freedom". However this "freedom" is not without caveats. So in essence, this restricted "Freedom" is not really freedom and is overall detrimental to the modding scene in general.
Could you elaborate on this?