Spearthrower
Thrower of spears
TAM is undergoing a lot of changes at present but I think it is reaching a point where it will be "complete" for vanilla cIV.
As TAM is a great framework for creating side-mods and scenarios, I think it might be a good idea to have a thread so that people can request specific ancient world scenarios that would be interesting. Also, would-be map designers, modders etc will then have an idea what's popular and what people would be interested in.
If anyone has a request, can you add as much detail as possible to explain what you'd like to see?
For example:
The Greco-Persian Wars
Period 5th to 4th century BCE. The Battle of Marathon (490 BCE) is an initial area of attention.
I'd like to see a scenario that presented a more realistic approximation of the times of the Persian Wars. This would put the fragmented city states of Greece into conflict with the might of the Persian empire. The challenge for the player would either be to unite Greek city states against Persia, or play as Persia and conquer Greece.
The map would focus in on Greece and Asia minor and would only include relevent other civs as neutrals that could be persuaded either way for benefits (i.e. Thessaly/Thrace etc). Most of the civs will represent the City States of Greece. No Lydians - they were already conquered by the Persians. Furthest west would be Italian peninsula / SW Carthage.
Furthest North Thrace
Furthest East somewhere in Persia.... possibly all the way to India depending on balance and scales of in between cities (Persia needs to be HUGE and powerful)
South - just a little of Egypt.
Possible civ and some leaders list: (incomplete - more research needed) Obviously not all of these, but as suggestions....
Team 1
Persians - Darius I / Xerxes
Thrace - ?
Thessaly - ?
Carthage - ? (friendly to Persia - hates Syracuse)
Ionia - ? (angry vassal to Persia - can set conditions for it to join Team 2)
Team 2
Athens - Themistocles
Sparta - Leonidas I / Pausanius
Corinth - Oligarch of Bacchanidae (dunno which one!! )
Euboea - ?
Syracuse - ? (happy vassal to Sparta)
Neutrals (Open to discussion - depends on the time with these guys)
Thebes - ? (neutral - friendly to Persia, most Greeks / hates Athens)
Megara - ? (friendly to Team 2)
Phocis - ? (friendly to Team 2)
Mantinea - ? (friendly to Team 2)
Egypt - ? At war with Persia
Cyprus - ? Friendly to Team 2
With various neutrals ready to join forces with either team, a sudden complex war would break out. The Greek Team 2 would need to concentrate on uniting Greece early and trying to consolidate borders while Persia gathers her armies.
Carthage would represent a southern and western check - the Italian peninsula could be included. Stopping Carthage from acquiring Syracuse would be important for the luxury resources offered by this valuable ally.
Ionia is a fan waiting for the . .. .. .. . to hit.... it hates Persia but can't fight alone... this could be engineered to bring Athens, and thereby team 2, into conflict with Persia.
War weariness needs to be massively reduced to allow for pretty much endless warfare.
No settlers, pre-placed cities set to capture only - no razing!
Different civs would have different specialisations.... for example, Athens would rule the sea while Sparta would have the best infantry.
As TAM is a great framework for creating side-mods and scenarios, I think it might be a good idea to have a thread so that people can request specific ancient world scenarios that would be interesting. Also, would-be map designers, modders etc will then have an idea what's popular and what people would be interested in.
If anyone has a request, can you add as much detail as possible to explain what you'd like to see?
For example:
The Greco-Persian Wars
Period 5th to 4th century BCE. The Battle of Marathon (490 BCE) is an initial area of attention.
I'd like to see a scenario that presented a more realistic approximation of the times of the Persian Wars. This would put the fragmented city states of Greece into conflict with the might of the Persian empire. The challenge for the player would either be to unite Greek city states against Persia, or play as Persia and conquer Greece.
The map would focus in on Greece and Asia minor and would only include relevent other civs as neutrals that could be persuaded either way for benefits (i.e. Thessaly/Thrace etc). Most of the civs will represent the City States of Greece. No Lydians - they were already conquered by the Persians. Furthest west would be Italian peninsula / SW Carthage.
Furthest North Thrace
Furthest East somewhere in Persia.... possibly all the way to India depending on balance and scales of in between cities (Persia needs to be HUGE and powerful)
South - just a little of Egypt.
Possible civ and some leaders list: (incomplete - more research needed) Obviously not all of these, but as suggestions....
Team 1
Persians - Darius I / Xerxes
Thrace - ?
Thessaly - ?
Carthage - ? (friendly to Persia - hates Syracuse)
Ionia - ? (angry vassal to Persia - can set conditions for it to join Team 2)
Team 2
Athens - Themistocles
Sparta - Leonidas I / Pausanius
Corinth - Oligarch of Bacchanidae (dunno which one!! )
Euboea - ?
Syracuse - ? (happy vassal to Sparta)
Neutrals (Open to discussion - depends on the time with these guys)
Thebes - ? (neutral - friendly to Persia, most Greeks / hates Athens)
Megara - ? (friendly to Team 2)
Phocis - ? (friendly to Team 2)
Mantinea - ? (friendly to Team 2)
Egypt - ? At war with Persia
Cyprus - ? Friendly to Team 2
With various neutrals ready to join forces with either team, a sudden complex war would break out. The Greek Team 2 would need to concentrate on uniting Greece early and trying to consolidate borders while Persia gathers her armies.
Carthage would represent a southern and western check - the Italian peninsula could be included. Stopping Carthage from acquiring Syracuse would be important for the luxury resources offered by this valuable ally.
Ionia is a fan waiting for the . .. .. .. . to hit.... it hates Persia but can't fight alone... this could be engineered to bring Athens, and thereby team 2, into conflict with Persia.
War weariness needs to be massively reduced to allow for pretty much endless warfare.
No settlers, pre-placed cities set to capture only - no razing!
Different civs would have different specialisations.... for example, Athens would rule the sea while Sparta would have the best infantry.