Was Abraham mentally ill or about to carry through with a cognizant choice? And if not mentally ill, how do you see him differently than the mothers I mentioned?
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So treating homophobic bullying as bullying is condoning homophobic bullying, WTFH?
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
I wonder how many effeminate men have been beaten to death by Muslim fanatics compared to Christians.
Mom "spanks the gay out" after he is caught pouring "sand on each others' butt cracks" at the age of 5...
Link to video.
"Once gay" Christian "therapist" shows how to properly hug men while beating a surrogate mom with a tennis racket:
Link to video.
I think it is clear those are both examples of serious anger management issues which now need professional help.
You really can't ignore homophobic bullying in hopes it might go away all on its own. It is apparently now an inherent part of Catholic schools in England, and I suspect elsewhere as well.
Mom "spanks the gay out" after he is caught pouring "sand on each others' butt cracks" at the age of 5...
Link to video.
"Once gay" Christian "therapist" shows how to properly hug men while beating a surrogate mom with a tennis racket:
Link to video.
I think it is clear those are both examples of serious anger management issues which now need professional help.
You mean you actually think treating it as a minor problem instead of major issue is the proper course?
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Excuse me, don't lump us all in with the fundamentalists. I think Abraham was a lunatic who got lucky and really wouldn't condone 'trying this at home'. At the end of the day he went off to kill his son because 'God told him to' - doesn't that sound like the motivation for a lot of TV-show psychopaths?
Oh come on Mobby. Considering that the difference between him and our tv-show-lunatics is that we have the Bible's word that he was actually inspired by God - that's fantastic until you remember who wrote the parts of the Bible in question and the fact that they considered Abraham the father of their race. Not to mention that the argument that 'some atheists are rude, so none of them make decent public officials' is beyond stupid.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Again, this is why I wont vote for atheists for any public office. The insistance that the religious are all mentally ill is just beyond rude.
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
I think you are confusing all-too-typical childish name-calling with repetitively making serious acts of violence, which the Catholic schools in England apparently do little or nothing to stop. It is this general condoning of violence against effeminate men and homosexuals in both our cultures which allows homophobes and femophobes to claim so many victims.
Even the transsexual woman who was recently beaten in the McDonalds was likely a victim of this same attitude.
In fact, you could say they do no more than any other school does, being no more than a school can - schools actually don't have nearly as much power as they'd like to stop bullying because their teachers can only really influence those who respect them, and people who consistently break the rules tend not to be the ones with respect for those that enforce them. It's not as if they're OK with it happening - bullying directly leads to lower exam results leading to less funding and the attrition of the school's reputation, not to mention the fact that almost all of the teachers I've worked with took the job and still do it - despite it being hugely stressful and far more work than the pay would suggest - because they really care about helping children and they understandably really don't like seeing their kids bullied. I actually saw this come to a head outside of the school once when (the school was a state grammar school in a fairly rough area; the pupils got a fair bit of stick from the locals, especially my guys in the cadet force) two or three kids on bikes were tormenting one of the pupils leaving school - just as a member of PE staff walked past and proceeded to give them a peice of his mind, unfettered by any guidelines or legislation that normally hold that sort of thing in check at work.
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
I think there is a huge difference between homophobic bullying and normal bullying. While neither should be condoned in any school, I think it is quite clear that homophobia and femophobia should not be tolerated at all.
I have not called anyone mentally ill in this thread. You are the one that ascribed mental illness to those exhibiting signs of religious devotion (unless you are saying you are an atheist and would never vote for yourself).
I merely asked how far your diagnosis of mental illness went. I would really like to know how we can distinguish between the father of 3 religions or someone that is mentally ill, when the basic difference appears to be that the father of the religions heard contradicting divine commands during his potential child killing and the Mobby-diagnosed mentally ill heard consistent commands.
It is the height of hypocrosiy to call someone mentally ill and then get on a high horse against someone who has not called anyone mentally ill under the accusation that that person has called someone mentally ill.
Pwn goal perhaps.
LucyDuke
staring at the clock
Mango Elephant
Deity
Saying that most athiests think the religious are all mentally ill is actually pretty rude.
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
Many Christians seem to think they are actually being persecuted for their religious beliefs when people are merely objecting to them trying to force their own provincial attitudes on everybody else.
Blatant intolerance of effeminate males and homosexuals are excellent examples. For some reason, they feel inordinately threatened by those who merely have different lifestyles and priorities than their own.
If they feel that way towards those who pose absolutely no threat to their own way of life, how are they going to react to people from other countries with radically different cultures?
Blatant intolerance of effeminate males and homosexuals are excellent examples. For some reason, they feel inordinately threatened by those who merely have different lifestyles and priorities than their own.
If they feel that way towards those who pose absolutely no threat to their own way of life, how are they going to react to people from other countries with radically different cultures?
Communisto
Condottiere
Honestly, I think it has more to do with certain people scrambling to maintain their own veil of fraudulent heterosexuality than pure intolerance of people who are different. I feel that that is where the perceived threat comes from. If you think sexuality is something so malleable that it can be swept aside by a colour, well, then you're probably already lying to yourself about your own preferences.
It's not suprising that someone that would ascribe mental illness to a segment of the religiously devout could be evasive to boot.
Bullying is treated as bullying and violence is treated as violence, what is the problem? You read something about how Catholic schools are only treating bullying as bullying and not making a special category for homophobic bullying and then you assume it is saying they aren't punishing violence as violence. This is exactly what happened with the whole death panel thing!
...Savvy?
That reminded me so much of Jack Sparrow's speech to the two bemused Royal Marines aboard the Dauntless in the first Pirates of the Caribbean film.
What, homophobes are all secretly gay? Probably something to be said for that, although continuing that logic we conclude that racists are all secretly black... may be more complicated I think
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
Because the public schools are taking far greater measures to directly try to deal with this obvious problem which is far more serious, while the Catholic schools are not? Now why is that?Bullying is treated as bullying and violence is treated as violence, what is the problem? You read something about how Catholic schools are only treating bullying as bullying and not making a special category for homophobic bullying and then you assume it is saying they aren't punishing violence as violence. This is exactly what happened with the whole death panel thing!
