King of the World #6: Huayna Capac
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Hey, guys. Another boring round in which we focused on keeping Mean Green happy, clearing out the last of the jungle and taking some semblance of a tech lead. We didn't even have the apocalyptic backstab that everyone was predicting.
We started out by joining our pal Monty in making meanie-faces across the Pacific:
Better the militaristic psychopath that you know, and all that. Over the course of the war, Qin's Caravel tore up Panama's Crab Net's, which sucked. We got back to Friendly with the Aztecs, though, so I'd call it a fair trade.
Louis also roped us into a war with Spain. Isabella had a good run, but she seems to be on the ropes at this point. Apparently, her heretical beliefs (she's Buddhist, most of the world seems to be Jewish), when combined with her naturally charming disposition, seems to have put her at odds with most of the civilized world. As usual.
With Steam Power in hand, a massive public works campaign of Levee-building started up across South America. The Arabs, impressed by the technological acumen exhibited by the Inca, offered to teach us the theoretical underpinnings of science and a brief course in geography in exchange for our more practical know-how:
I, wanting to stir up unrest, also offered Saladin our map, along with a few hundred gold, to act as my proxy in the war with Egypt. We all love Hattie, but, on this map, she needs a good beating every once in a while to keep her in line.
In 1660, I swallowed my pride and sent 75 gold to the Germans in exchange for peace. Did I need peace? Did I fear a fleet of lederhosen-clad Macemen landing on my shores? Not really, but it seemed that that all of the AIs with the really juicy techs up for trade were the AIs that I was at war with, and Frederick was willing to trade Rifling. Unfortunately, once peace was declared, he apparently changed his mind. Jerk.
20 years later, the nattily-dressed Zheng He was born in Santiago:
He babbled about wanting to go exploring the oceans and spreading trade. I told him to go back to sleep and began starving out the population of Buenos Aires, the next city to spawn a Great Person. At this point, his best use was in a Golden Age, so Zheng needed a buddy.
Meanwhile, across the globe, war continued to rage, led, shockingly, by the Greeks:
As you can also see there, we missed out on the race for the Statue of Liberty. Which was about halfway done in Brasilia. Freakin' English.
By 1700, Frederick was finally willing to talk turkey on just how to set up those grooves on the inside of a gun barrel:
To quote the AIs, it's highway robbery, but we'll take it.
In 1718, Monty had made peace with the Chinese, so I followed suit. In fact, I sued for the end to all of all of our foreign "entanglements" so that I could do this:
Even fake war should now be a thing of the past.
Fittingly, this end to struggle was commemorated by our being the first to Fascism:
I built a War School in Brasilia. They should now be able to pump out units like nobody's business.
In 1754, Incan policies of starvation and oppression of the people of Buenos Aires finally produced just the type of scumbag the empire needed:
He partnered up with the long-dormant Zheng He and ushered in the Second Incan Golden Age.
So that's where I decided to stop. Here's a look at the long-awaited world shots:
As you can see, the Japanese have taken Pearl Harbor! Good for them. More importantly, Paris seems to have passed to the Germans and Madrid... seems to be no more. An interesting map we've got going here.
Anyway, the Domestic Advisor:
And a rare, comprehensive look at the tech board:
Finally, a peek at the Diplomatic Web:
Our military is still no great shakes, but I don't think we have a lot to worry about, unless Monty will break a Defensive Pact and backstab you at Friendly. With the Golden Age running, should we jump to State Property or stay the course?
I look forward to the feedback.
Oh, yeah. The save:
We started out by joining our pal Monty in making meanie-faces across the Pacific:
Better the militaristic psychopath that you know, and all that. Over the course of the war, Qin's Caravel tore up Panama's Crab Net's, which sucked. We got back to Friendly with the Aztecs, though, so I'd call it a fair trade.
Louis also roped us into a war with Spain. Isabella had a good run, but she seems to be on the ropes at this point. Apparently, her heretical beliefs (she's Buddhist, most of the world seems to be Jewish), when combined with her naturally charming disposition, seems to have put her at odds with most of the civilized world. As usual.
With Steam Power in hand, a massive public works campaign of Levee-building started up across South America. The Arabs, impressed by the technological acumen exhibited by the Inca, offered to teach us the theoretical underpinnings of science and a brief course in geography in exchange for our more practical know-how:
I, wanting to stir up unrest, also offered Saladin our map, along with a few hundred gold, to act as my proxy in the war with Egypt. We all love Hattie, but, on this map, she needs a good beating every once in a while to keep her in line.
In 1660, I swallowed my pride and sent 75 gold to the Germans in exchange for peace. Did I need peace? Did I fear a fleet of lederhosen-clad Macemen landing on my shores? Not really, but it seemed that that all of the AIs with the really juicy techs up for trade were the AIs that I was at war with, and Frederick was willing to trade Rifling. Unfortunately, once peace was declared, he apparently changed his mind. Jerk.
20 years later, the nattily-dressed Zheng He was born in Santiago:
He babbled about wanting to go exploring the oceans and spreading trade. I told him to go back to sleep and began starving out the population of Buenos Aires, the next city to spawn a Great Person. At this point, his best use was in a Golden Age, so Zheng needed a buddy.
Meanwhile, across the globe, war continued to rage, led, shockingly, by the Greeks:
As you can also see there, we missed out on the race for the Statue of Liberty. Which was about halfway done in Brasilia. Freakin' English.
By 1700, Frederick was finally willing to talk turkey on just how to set up those grooves on the inside of a gun barrel:
To quote the AIs, it's highway robbery, but we'll take it.
In 1718, Monty had made peace with the Chinese, so I followed suit. In fact, I sued for the end to all of all of our foreign "entanglements" so that I could do this:
Even fake war should now be a thing of the past.
Fittingly, this end to struggle was commemorated by our being the first to Fascism:
I built a War School in Brasilia. They should now be able to pump out units like nobody's business.
In 1754, Incan policies of starvation and oppression of the people of Buenos Aires finally produced just the type of scumbag the empire needed:
He partnered up with the long-dormant Zheng He and ushered in the Second Incan Golden Age.
So that's where I decided to stop. Here's a look at the long-awaited world shots:
As you can see, the Japanese have taken Pearl Harbor! Good for them. More importantly, Paris seems to have passed to the Germans and Madrid... seems to be no more. An interesting map we've got going here.
Anyway, the Domestic Advisor:
And a rare, comprehensive look at the tech board:
Finally, a peek at the Diplomatic Web:
Our military is still no great shakes, but I don't think we have a lot to worry about, unless Monty will break a Defensive Pact and backstab you at Friendly. With the Golden Age running, should we jump to State Property or stay the course?
I look forward to the feedback.
Oh, yeah. The save:
Stewie0416
Who Cares?
Just one thing about the world...
GREEKS ARE EVERYWHERE!!! ONLY 2 cities produced enough troops to take out GK!
French are now Irish Egyptians, and Persians are now also African and Russians in africa 2! Whats happened to the world! I dont think i've ever seen a more jumbled up mess of random crud cities in the middle of nowhere. O well, at least China and Japan look semi ok.
Germans look really strong though......Persians seem weaker than normal at this period. They usually are much stronger occupying the land now greece
eek China and Saladin ( Ok seriously...GK is really disappointing...)
Another thing, are AI getting lazy or what? I havent seen this many small countries in awhile. maybe i need to play World map more....
One more thing, is China a vassal of Russia or Vice versa cause if they are somehow aligned then that makes them much more powerful, both are notorious
Also, for next KOTW i vote for either Alex or GK, Alex seems strangly powerful this game and GH is getting crushed
GREEKS ARE EVERYWHERE!!! ONLY 2 cities produced enough troops to take out GK!
French are now Irish Egyptians, and Persians are now also African and Russians in africa 2! Whats happened to the world! I dont think i've ever seen a more jumbled up mess of random crud cities in the middle of nowhere. O well, at least China and Japan look semi ok.
Germans look really strong though......Persians seem weaker than normal at this period. They usually are much stronger occupying the land now greece
eek China and Saladin ( Ok seriously...GK is really disappointing...)Another thing, are AI getting lazy or what? I havent seen this many small countries in awhile. maybe i need to play World map more....
One more thing, is China a vassal of Russia or Vice versa cause if they are somehow aligned then that makes them much more powerful, both are notorious
Also, for next KOTW i vote for either Alex or GK, Alex seems strangly powerful this game and GH is getting crushed
Joshua368
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Yep, you seem set for space. Just keep up-to-date garrisans in all your cities, maybe double them up in your coast, and you shouldn't have too much to worry about.
So let's see how early you can get that spaceship out there, get a nice time before the twentieth century rolls around. I think my record's like 1870 or something... shouldn't be hard to beat with all those cottages. Beeline superconductors (possibly trading for electricity from mansa musa), build labs everywhere, get rocketry, get industrialism, work your way up to space nice and quick.
So let's see how early you can get that spaceship out there, get a nice time before the twentieth century rolls around. I think my record's like 1870 or something... shouldn't be hard to beat with all those cottages. Beeline superconductors (possibly trading for electricity from mansa musa), build labs everywhere, get rocketry, get industrialism, work your way up to space nice and quick.
fugazi
King
Nice, it looks like it that you've won unless something unexpected happens. A good idea might be to build a bunch of destroyers and transports. You could assault a weak spot and raze some key cities with that assault force, and make sure to sign a peace treaty before they come across the ocean for you *hint hint* 
Nice, it looks like it that you've won unless something unexpected happens. A good idea might be to build a bunch of destroyers and transports. You could assault a weak spot and raze some key cities with that assault force, and make sure to sign a peace treaty before they come across the ocean for you *hint hint*
That'd end his defensive pact with Monty.
Any chance of a permanent alliance with our favorite madman by the way?
re: The map- Yeah, it's freakin' weird. Almost makes me wish I was a continental Civ so I could've seen all this firsthand. Oh, and Catherine is a vassal of Qin. I don't think the top dog on the leaderboard can become a vassal. Maybe I'm wrong, though.
re: Monty- Unfortunately, PA's aren't enabled. Maybe I should set it up that way in the next game. Dutchfire is right about the Defensive Pact: I don't want that going down anytime soon.
re: The game in general- I think we can all agree that we're on the home stretch. Should I just push through and finish it, or should I split it up into a few more rounds?
re: Monty- Unfortunately, PA's aren't enabled. Maybe I should set it up that way in the next game. Dutchfire is right about the Defensive Pact: I don't want that going down anytime soon.
re: The game in general- I think we can all agree that we're on the home stretch. Should I just push through and finish it, or should I split it up into a few more rounds?
Ultimocrat
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Depends -- do you want detailed space race advice or not?
Are you planning on founding any corps? Have you built the ironworks to help with the big space race parts?
Stewie0416
Who Cares?
Are any of your cities high in culture? This game would make a nice first Culture Vic for KOTW
Stewie0416
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Asoka would be troubling because of his location, With China to his east and Cyrus to his west your gonna have to do some REX to get some land early, maybe rush China, but then you have to watch out for the ever worthless but aggresive GK. Although you dont need may cities, its just more interesting in my opinion!
Ultimocrat
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No cities over 50 culture per turn? I doubt it. Incas are tough to get good culture with if you play them the smart way -- focusing on expansion rather than wonders and religions.
(though in a OCC all flipped cities automatically burn to the ground... whoops!)I would like to do at least one OCC in this series. France is the obvious choice, but since Rome is kind of cheap, anyway, maybe a Rome OCC, sending out Praetorians to wipe out opposing Civs and bring back plunder would be fun.
I think I want to do a more traditional, kill'em all game next, though. This Huayna game is fun, in its own way, but sometimes you just want to indulge in a little early war, y'know? I'm thinkin' China, since it's kind of time to move on from Monarch. Genghis has potential, but his starting position is kind of rough, and I'd like to take on a new level with a stronger leader. And I've always wanted to try the Choko slingshot.
I think I want to do a more traditional, kill'em all game next, though. This Huayna game is fun, in its own way, but sometimes you just want to indulge in a little early war, y'know? I'm thinkin' China, since it's kind of time to move on from Monarch. Genghis has potential, but his starting position is kind of rough, and I'd like to take on a new level with a stronger leader. And I've always wanted to try the Choko slingshot.
Stewie0416
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China's not bad, Toku and GK arent exactly in great positions to pose you harm and Asoka can be easily dealt with, but its gonna be kinda like the Toku game except for a few parts. But i agree, warmonger game next. Have you ever tried Alex?
Joshua368
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Rome could work for an OCC, too bad Julius' traits suck for it though, expecially since his buddy Augustus has Industrius which is incredibly useful. At least he has the forum, I suppose. (Julius' less upkeep is useless, cheap courthouse is unimportant, and +50% faster settlers are... well... even less useful than the previous two. 
)
But of course having fun with praets is win-win all the time, though if you leave europe in ruins you might have problems with Russia or Persia filling in the gaps to become even more powerful.
)But of course having fun with praets is win-win all the time, though if you leave europe in ruins you might have problems with Russia or Persia filling in the gaps to become even more powerful.
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