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varwnos said:@Winner:
-They are teenagers,which means that they are not thugs, for the very simple reason that they havent formed a final basic personality. There is good reason why we have different sentences in courts for teenagers, pre-adolescents and adults, and it is due to the fact that they are different from each other in very real ways.
If your favourite hobby in the age of 14 is throwing stones at people, you're lost cause. They throw stones when they're ten, they shoot at you when they're twenty.
You know, the basic thing when dealing with children is, that any wrong action is followed by punishment. If they threw stones and no punishment followed, they'd be just encouraged to do more serious things.
-I do not understand why you glorify the brittish soldier; but as it is obvious they are just ordinary people who are soldiers. Obviously from the video they are not the most self-controlled individuals, and infact they should have been a lot more self-controlled if they were sent to a warzone.
I don't glorify them, but I can understand their behaviour. Being contantly assaulted, even by teenagers, that must be horribly frustrating.
-Why do you have to devalue human life so much? You should think that there is no reason one should form the opinnion that either intellectually or ethically (for want of a better word; what i mean is "goodness" of character) those teenagers are inferior to the brittish soldiers who are beating them up. Obviously they are not terrorists, and we dont know more about them. But even had they been involved in some disorganised militia (probably of their own making, like teenagers there would be likely to do) this just means that they hate the foreign soldiers in their land, which is to be expected.
They may hate them, right, nobody is asking them to love the occupants. But if they attack them, they must be punished. They can speak of a great luck, that they haven't got killed. If the occupants were not as humane as Americans or Brits are, they would have been killed for this.
-Think about what the effect is of supporting violence like that in the video. You are supporting failed soldiers, and giving them the right to continue acting in failed ways. Police brutality and use of excessive force is a crime, why should it be not a crime in the army? Afterall Iraq is an US police state atm, so the soldiers there should act exactly like policemen. If its too hard for them to maintain order without becomming warthugs then they should get the hell out in my view.
Well, our police is much more brutal in dealing with protestors. Watch a footage from any big action against violent demonstrations in Europe.
-Think about the legacy of such violence. Why should any of those teenagers not hate the brittish/americans even more now? Maybe this beating would make him become a terrorist when otherwise he might have not become one? Who knows, perhaps he will become a terrorist indeed, and in a few years will blow up your house. Think that all people have feelings, and if you leave them no way out they can/will resort to very violent means themselves, for the simple reason that they want to be able to live with themselves, and being traumatised like that will not easily go away, especially when the rest of their life is probably miserable due to the occupation and chaos in their country.
They can hardly hate them more. I can very well argue, that if they let them slide this time, they would be more brutal in the future. Now, they at least know, that throwing stones at soldiers brings some very unpleasant implications. Maybe now they'll think twice before attacking them again.