caravel can't pillage

[Astat]

so i've just sent my first caravel into enemy waters, but i obviously can't pillage their clam and fishing boats?
do i need a tech, or are caravels stacked with humanist seamen or what is it?

 

[joethreeblah]

You need to find the pineapple resource to improve the seamen

 

[Sahkuhnder]

so i've just sent my first caravel into enemy waters, but i obviously can't pillage their clam and fishing boats?
do i need a tech, or are caravels stacked with humanist seamen or what is it?

No, caravels can't pillage.

Many of us found this out the hard way too.

 

[Astat]

thx, sahkuhnder.. doesnt sound sensible to me, even crappy trireme can pillage already!

 

[syn]

doesnt sound sensible to me, even crappy trireme can pillage already!

yes, but can that crappy trireme enter closed waters?

makes perfect sense, caravel's for exploring only

 

[Astat]

makes perfect sense, caravel's for exploring only

exploration vessel that will regularly kick a trireme's butt..? caravels were more like multi-purpose vessels that did have weaponry.. as did every ship back then.

 

[DrewBledsoe]

Its purely to stop the following:- send 10 caravels into a neutral opponent's
territory, line them up with their fish/ clams/ whales/ crabs whatever, and pillage their whole sea industry in one turn in a sneak attack.

No more "open border" sneak attacks in CIv IV thank god

 

[rupertlittlebea]

too bad, that sounds like a nice plot.

 

[Snerk]

They cant? Well can they block enemy cities from using water tiles?
I havent found a real use for caravels.....

 

[warpus]

They cant? Well can they block enemy cities from using water tiles?
I havent found a real use for caravels.....

I use them to spread my religion, conduct great merchant missions, and to explore the new world on terra maps.

 

[Armorydave]

too bad, that sounds like a nice plot.

Can still be done in the modern era with subs (or destroyers moving in from outside the cultural border the first turn of a war).

 

[zyphyr]

I havent found a real use for caravels.....

If you feel like getting the circumnavigation bonus and aren't planing on getting Astronomy soon, build 2 of them and send them out in oposite directions. Once you finish the circumnavigation (or someone else gets it making your effort pointless), set them on explore and forget about them.

 

[syn]

It's just poor game design by people ignorant of history. That's all it is.

now don't go there

we are still talking about a game, aren't we?
either you can pillage or you can explore, makes sense to me

 

[emills]

caravels can attack enemy units, just not pillage. The sneak attack of pillaging would be very annoying.

I always envision the circumnavigation race as if it were the America's cup. Watch out for the Aussies!

 

[Danghis Khan]

what is the circumnavigation bonus anyway. I've never bothered.

 

[emills]

The circumnavigation bmus is a +1 movement for all your naval units. This includes workboats to battleships.

The workboat bonus is knid of nice since it often saves you a turn during deployment.

If playing a archipelago map, the bonus means that your enemy cannot run away from you and you can always run away from your opponent. Often it gives you the edge on a maneuver, i.e attack and return to shelter.

If you have to move a ship halfway across the map prior to your opponent, the circumnavigation bonus is key.

 

[DeusPopuliPixlm]

I havent found a real use for caravels.....

They're of use when you play an archipelago map. Some islands you can't get to with a trireme. Caravels let you explore for elbow room beyond your "local" set of islands. After sending out 2 in opposite directions to get that circumnavigation bonus, future caravels can carry scouts/explorers to new lands while you're trying to get galleons. Missionaries, too, if you feel like spreading religion.