Why is my first post on these forums a reply to a nonsense topic? I don't know really but here goes.
1. CIV1 is a game that favors: Western culture and Christianity. It featured only the most known countries (i.e. they heard of them) to the USA population, which were - fact - the target market for the game. I'm pretty sure that 80% of CIV1 selling was in USA. Remember Hoover Dam and Cathedral?
2. As time goes by, the reincarnations of Civ moved more and more to the global view of things. Cathedrals were politely renamed so that the actual name of buildings fit the religion in question, while Hoover Dam got renamed into "Three Gorges Dam".
3. No matter how hard Sid (or whoever is making the stuff up) tries, making a game based on history will always be based on
lies that everyone agreed upon. Since history and archeology are romantic sciences (yeah, lets face it, we have no bloody clue how Rome in the time of Julius Caesar
really looked like, no matter how hard we try), CIV will always be a game that reflects the knowledge (and interest and preference) of a small group of developers. After all, it's their game.
4. Even if the CIV historical background is somewhat biased and inaccurate, I give some credit to the dev team - these guys do have a system by which they implement stuff (or decide not to). In this particular case - "Which culture will be implemented in the next expansion?"
5. I might be wrong, but I think the way to determine if a culture is "big" enough to be implemented into the game has to answer to several tough questions:
1.
For how long was the culture on the historical stage?
2. How
widespread was it's cultural/political/religious/military influence?
3. How
independent was the culture in question from other (cultural, political, religious, military) influences?
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I'm a Hungarian living in Croatia. That means I'm pretty much Eastern European. If the above post didn't answer your question about EE yet, I'll put it down black on white:
There was no political, religious, cultural or military force "made in EE" through the course of history. You disagree?
Here's a brief timeline:
- barbarian era
- greek colonies
- roman colonies
- roman annexation (Christianity from Rome or Greece again)
- barbarians again
- complete political and cultural turmoil Austrian, German, Frank influence
- Habsburgs
- Ottoman Empire
- WWI
- complete political and cultural turmoil
- WWII
- SSSR sattelites (except Yugoslavia)
As you can see the only "Empire" that's worth mentioning is the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Considering the Habsburgs ruled over Spain and Mexico, it should be in the game. And that's the ONLY Empire worth putting into the game. If you are pulling my tongue, yeah, favoring the Holy Roman Empire to Austro-Hungary was pure bullcrap.
Sure, Polish, Hungarian, Bulgarian and many other EE cultures were influential, lasting... blah blah. Blah. Lets face it. What country did (insert EE country name here) invade? What religion was born in it? What cultural or scientifical or architectural breakthrough/monument did it create to be the envy of the rest of the world? And most importantly - how good is it's propaganda, really?
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I say, be glad our countries are not on the CIV list. That means we don't have a history of slaughter, theft, rape, slavery and all checkmarks on the Seven Deadly Sins list. Or to quote my friend: "When I was in London, I went to the Royal Jewels. You know what was the first notion i felt? Damn, i wonder if the this room where the jewels are displayed would be enough to hold all the blood spilled to get them."
Evelon
