Peter Sagan
Warlord
I just love Statue of Liberty too much.. So I choose Freedom 90% of my games.
I'm not an Autocracy fan - I hardly ever pick Autocracy actually - but it has its merits for sure. Two of them being massive happiness (Militarism, Police State) and combat bonuses (Lightning Warfare, Total War) which helps a lot when going conquest. On the downside, I find that most of the tier 1 and tier 3 Autocracy tennets suck pretty badly, so in order to get to all those juicy tier 2 tennets, I have to waste a lot of tennets on the bad tier 1 tennets, which is frustrating. But then again, I play only Emperor, so I don't really need the bonuses Autocracy offers - it's very much a "losers" tree, and if you play Diety, supposedly the bonuses from policies like Industrial Espionage and Clausewitz's Legacy should be game changers. On a final note, Gunboat Diplomacy can be extremely powerful, possibly the easiest DV depending on the layout of the map.Interesting that so many people have picked autocracy. I used it to get the relevant achievements, then concluded that it's by far the weakest option and haven't used it since. Now I wonder if I'm missing something.
For those who like it, what would you say are its strengths?
Interesting that so many people have picked autocracy. I used it to get the relevant achievements, then concluded that it's by far the weakest option and haven't used it since. Now I wonder if I'm missing something.
For those who like it, what would you say are its strengths?
Hey guys, just curious, what makes Freedom so good for CV?
It only has one level 3 tenet which improves Tourism in cities with a Broadcast Tower.
Order on the other hand has two policies which increase your overall Tourism. I know they are contingent on happiness and what ideology other Civs are following, but they just seem more powerful than the Media Culture tenet all up.
Freedom is better in general then order for CV, for really only one reason. This reason is that the Media Culture Tenant is an all around boost, applying to all civilizations. Although the AI seems to lean towards Order, its usual to get at least one or two civs that don't follow order, and the boost to tourism will cancel out any negative modifiers you get for that.
However, if you're a late adopter, then order may not be a bad choice for CV, as you'll know how many civilizations have adopted order.
Interesting that so many people have picked autocracy. I used it to get the relevant achievements, then concluded that it's by far the weakest option and haven't used it since. Now I wonder if I'm missing something.
For those who like it, what would you say are its strengths?
For CV - freedom, for everything else - Order. Its funny, that Order is better than Authocracy even for domination games, as you handle way better the happiness issues:
- +2 from monuments
- +2 from workshop/factory
- completely free courthouses, so you can simply annex everything and build monuments, workshops, factories and all other happiness buildings.
The only thing that is really good in authocracy is the combat bonus for 50 turns and to some extent the one that gives u influence for trade routes with CS.
I'm not an Autocracy fan - I hardly ever pick Autocracy actually - but it has its merits for sure. Two of them being massive happiness (Militarism, Police State) and combat bonuses (Lightning Warfare, Total War) which helps a lot when going conquest. On the downside, I find that most of the tier 1 and tier 3 Autocracy tennets suck pretty badly, so in order to get to all those juicy tier 2 tennets, I have to waste a lot of tennets on the bad tier 1 tennets, which is frustrating. But then again, I play only Emperor, so I don't really need the bonuses Autocracy offers - it's very much a "losers" tree, and if you play Diety, supposedly the bonuses from policies like Industrial Espionage and Clausewitz's Legacy should be game changers. On a final note, Gunboat Diplomacy can be extremely powerful, possibly the easiest DV depending on the layout of the map.
One major problem for me with Autocracy is that Order does many of the same things as Autocracy, and does it at least as good. Order also has massive happiness boosts (Socialist Realism woot!, Young Pioneers, Academy of Sciences) and Iron Curtain for me is perhaps the ultimate policy if I go conquest. Order does not give you the extra XP for units, but the production bonuses from Five Year Plan (and Iron Curtain) will match the bonus from Autocracy (and possibly then some, not even to take Kremlin into the picture), and the science bonus from Worker's Faculties is usually the kicker for me ...
On a sidenote, isn't it odd that Order gets the Armor unit production bonus on Kremlin (would fit better with Autocracy Lightning Warfare synergy) while Autocracy gets happiness on Prora (would fit with wide strategies)? But I guess if we switch Prora and Kremlin effects, Order will completely blow the spectrum ... the only thing that holds Order somewhat in check against Freedom for me is the fact the Kremlin stinks and Statue of Liberty rocks!