Because people in the West don't realize how little charity they dole out. Part of this is a function of how efficient the dispersal of aid is though.
Is it possible to eliminate poverty?
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Because people in the West don't realize how little charity they dole out. Part of this is a function of how efficient the dispersal of aid is though.
MobBoss
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You cant eliminate poverty. However, you can mitigate it.
I absolutely think it possible to have a society in which no one has to be poor unless they choose to be. Some people absolutely choose to leech off of society and be unproductive and live in semi-poverty. I dont think you can change that.
I absolutely think it possible to have a society in which no one has to be poor unless they choose to be. Some people absolutely choose to leech off of society and be unproductive and live in semi-poverty. I dont think you can change that.
I agree, and I agree.
I just am a little tired about people refusing* to give aid because they're worried about the efficiency. It's a fair comment once the aid is flowing, sure, let's build efficiencies. But it's not really a fair comment if there's almost no aid flowing.
*though I'm pretty sure it's just the rationalization du jour.
I think that the objection has been the rationalization for decades now. It's a catch 22 at this point.
I think one of the more promising things is microloans.
I like them all! Take your pick! Please!
(I've been swayed by the malaria netting, though the leprosy ads get me every time. And One-Laptop-per-Child was a really great idea)
(I've been swayed by the malaria netting, though the leprosy ads get me every time. And One-Laptop-per-Child was a really great idea)
Integral
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Yes, we can.
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1. Institute programs to provide medical care, education, and nutrition to poor families. Mexico provides poverty relief to 2.6 million families on a budget of just $777 million. A similar program in Nicaragua has achieved somewhat more limited results. The US should commit to funding at least two Progresa-style programs in developing countries with reasonably effective governments. If Congress can fund a $300 billion farm bill every 5 years, it can provide $1.5 billion per year to help developing countries.
2. Extend the availability of credit to poor people, via microloans. Grameen Bank combines microloans with an extensive social program and a ten-point plan to evaluate a family's progress out of poverty. So far, microfinance has reached over 100 million families with the goal of lifting 500 million people out of poverty by 2015.
3. Wait for the effects of said programs to work their way through the local economy and society. Economic development doesn't happen overnight. Make adjustments as necessary. These strategies can be easily be coupled with other approaches, both high-level and low-level.
Quildavyr
Man of sick jokes!
Eliminating poverty is impossible.God will not allow it.
Elta
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Quildavyr
Man of sick jokes!
Any god.The one you believe in.Gods like it when their underlings suffer.It is the nature of being god.At least if I was the god,I would like it.No scripture needed.
I just want to say,poverty is the part of this life.It cant be vanquished.No matter how hard the people try.Poverty was there,Poverty is here and poverty will be anywhere.
Cheezy the Wiz
Socialist In A Hurry
There are many people who are poor by no fault of their own.
Cheezy the Wiz
Socialist In A Hurry
If the state owned it, it could use that money for whatever it needed to. Like distrubuting it to the poor, for instance.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Irrelevant to my point.
As long as people have a choice in how they want to live there will be poverty.
You can only ultimately eliminate poverty by eliminating choice.
Good luck with that.
Cheezy the Wiz
Socialist In A Hurry
LOL That was entirely relevant to your point, and you just proved it again! You're blaming poor people for being poor.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Not at all. I dont blame people who are poor due to no fault of their own...
However, most of these people dont remain poor long as they are determined to improve their status above being poor....
But you need to accept the fact that not all poor people are that way because of no fault of their own.....some are that way precisely by their own choice....
If you choose to remain ignorant and refuse to accept the fact that yes, some people do actually choose to live in poverty then we cant have a valid conversation.
Get back to me when you are willing to accept the truth...
I think that this gets back to the definition of poverty; are people who actively choose a lifestyle and are open about that choice really best counted in poverty statistics?
Should their children be counted?
exactly; this is why the question of what is poverty is such a can of worms.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
I dont see how you can not count them.
is it a social problem when people live the way that they want to even if it would considered poverty?
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An other way to deal Africas problems (mainly the problems of the poorest countries) is a new trend in charity. Instead of giving either money or food , it would provide Africans with the materials ,machinery but first of all the training needed by eliminating the middle man in the first stage that did the whole process , well not to happen. They will also offer advice on how to use them and which objective should each participant follow.
Each participant will either
A) build houses
B) organize farms/business introduce new methods and increase production
C) to work in jobs that require qualified personnel and contribute to the community.
And there is an actual charity program like this. It was not strange that when asked on who really helped them the poor said only it .
Each participant will either
A) build houses
B) organize farms/business introduce new methods and increase production
C) to work in jobs that require qualified personnel and contribute to the community.
And there is an actual charity program like this. It was not strange that when asked on who really helped them the poor said only it .
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