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so this is how it works :
there's a limit to the length of posts ; nobody likes walls of texts and so on . The spoiler below contains two posts from the Qatar thread , a crisis which started as a sword of Damocles thing to scare us to accept the referandum with out stuff . If not , economic crisis and civil war ... If accepted , civil war deferred a couple of years . We will see what happenz and stuff . The one at the bottom will point to the one on top , no need to follow them on that page .
and of course Xenforo being idiotic to say the least it doesn't lead to the posts but to the page . Look for posts numbered 282 and 298 ...
this second spoiler points to the edit of my first post in this thread , space issues and all
and post number 27 . Death to Xenforo .
part 4 , might see edits to add more
it has been a non-stop event . Europe was behind the A-K-P as individual rights were improved . Not that ı have any single right to oppose that but let's just remember South Cyprus was taken into the EU as the public here was awash with rights and more rights . Rauf Denktaş has been kinda over ambitious many many times , and he nearly blew up the landings in Cyprus . Not , as the Greeks already knew we were coming . So ? Denktaş is like bona fide a hero of the country in the 20th Century . He was declared a traitor in Ankara , and every body was like in applause . Because the Kemalists hate the Greeks , that's why they invented the Cyprus issue . Ankara would give up the island and the island would join the EU . All the human rights was in that direction and we would get in , too . There was an Annan plan that surrendered the island and Turkish Cypriots accepted with great pleasure , thinking of the Euros that would rain down from Bruxelles . greek Cypriots rejected with great pleasure as the "veto" powers had been "removed" . Human rights were still floodingthe country though . Kemalists had killed the Armenians . Which naturally led to this Armenian journalist shot dead . As repeatedly said , some rather different kind of "Turkish patriot" he was . His death was the fault of Kemalists , even if there are so many Congregation members who will get life sentences for the murder and it's fully justified , too . "Muslims" were never at fault . They decided Kemalists had bragged far too much with the 10 000 kilometers of track they had laid back in the day ; so they brought fast trains to the country . You know , by ordering trains to run faster on rails that wouldn't support the speed . Naturally one derailed , 40 killed . The manager sacked , too . Do you know what happens ? Some journalist goes to football match and the "Muslim" watches the same game and explains what had actually happened , shouting over the din ... In 1989 , Bulgarians force thousands of Turks out . Naturally some are the agents of the Communist intelligence like this train driver . He remains hiding for 20 years and when ordered , he derails the train to sabotage the matchless advance of "Muslims" . The same "Muslims" surrendered the whole country to the Congregation and the Southeast to the seperatists . Congregation was too smart , they were so close to the US and long sidelined by the followers of Said-i Nursi , you know , some Kurd , so they basically were jealous of the seperatists and kept arresting their politicos . The start of cracks in the blissful alliance of the Party and the Congregation . Europe and America never cared . The Republic of 1923 has been the enemy of the West , however funny it might be ; no such opposition to the New Turkey .
this is why nobody is fighting for the country , in effect .
you can say anything about human rights and stuff . If a Kurd , you are entitled to them by birth right ; except you will lose them all when there is a Kurdish nation state and the rising oligarchy needs to suck the entire treasury dry . If you are a Turk , nobody cares for you ; as an enemy of mankind . There was this Armenian journalist , the guy who originated the slogan "Not enough, but yes" signifying Liberals should support the A-K-P despite all the apparent failings , as the Kemalists would never do . Unlike good Armenians , those two card carrying members of the A-K-P , he has fallen afoul of the New times and he is a refugee of sorts in Germany . He complains he hasn't been able to find a school for his child for 8 months and once thrown out of an official building for disruptive behaviour . Contrast that with the love Germany shows to the members of the Congregation , those smart ones that will return home to rule us when the need passes . Or the make believe crisis Germany conducts against New Turkey .
the fighting against the seperatists flared when there was a need to embrass the now extinct Turkish Army . Some relative of an arrested coup plotter commands a "base area" that gets attacked , 20 killed and do you know why ? He should have let it happen , to hurt the political standing of the Party to get his uncle released . The PM visits America and there is an attack that kills 7 soldiers on December 7th of some year , It happens in a province where an arrested coup plotting Colonel was born . The Colonel must have arranged it , significant because where he was born and the date , which must be some subliminal message to America . The Party and the seperatists made peace when there was no discernible opposition . It wasn't plain sailing though , the seperatists were creating liberated zones and in some demonstration some guy took down a Turkish flag from some corner of an airbase in Diyarbakır . The soldiers had been ordered to stand down . Only because it made to the TV , there was a storm ; if soldiers were patriots or something they would have shoot the guy down ... The seperatists (seeing a danger in this) surrendered a guy , whose nickname was "Arab" , for his skin colour . See, it wasn't a seperatist who took the flag down . Arabs did it . Then Party practically lost the June elections . The fighting restarted again . The Party won the November elections . Why the seperatists fell for it ? Because America promised making up any losses they suffered . The losses of the Army of Petrol and the Police ? Why , it was a brotherhood school where new kind of "imams" were indoctrinating people in "baby steps" . Also a much useful PR coup as the losses were caused by Congregation generals . Which is actually true , too .
this country actually turned a blind eye to oil smugglers who would arrive on the border with flowing beards and 200 , 500 horsemen and 2000 foot . You know , this was before ISIL rose and started propaganda that we were the Romans and they would beat us in Armageddon . Hark back to 1979 and you will see the occupiers of Kabe had transistor radios on them to listen to the progress of an Army from the North , you know the only one that has actually defended Islam over centuries , then supposedly Kemalist , march all the way through Syria and Iraq to save God's House . Saudis got bored , so they hired French as advisors and Pakistanis as boots . ISIL actually folded for the benefit of New Turkey when the Army of Petrol did stage this kinda odd coup attempt and got defeated . If they have 50 000 traitors in , why only 6 000 rise ? Because America created the system to get them in , so that they could stab the Kemalists in the back , but it became a cancer and the now extinct Turkish Armed Forces was thus killed on the cheap . But nobody cares for the Army of Petrol ? On the 500th anniversary of Mercidabık , a battle in which the Ottomans had defeated the Egyptian Memluks , they marched out to the tune of Mehter . Which would never happen had Mursi still been in charge in Cairo . He was a brother , New Turkey respects brothers as long as they are not Turkish . They heroically set out for 5000 square kilometers , but unfortunately ask for significant places on the map ; the staff kinda feeling there might still be court martials for them in some undisclosed future . America doesn't like it at all , finally allowing 2000 . So , the Army of Petrol ends up fighting beardies , you know with thousands marching from seperatist checkpoints and stuff . Though nothing to complain much about ; in Syria it happens everyday , to all sides ... And wow , everybody blows up ex-Turkish tanks . Guided anti-tank missiles exist since the Second World War , Germans used hundreds of rounds in 1945 . The Hungarians started their own programme because the Germans were so jealous and refused to share their invention . Them seperatists are Marxist Leninists , crypto Armenians and servants of Moscow , according to the narrative of the 1980s while Russians have a gazillion of ATGMs in inventory ? Or Hizbullah practically routed the Israelis in 2006 with the same and Iran supports the seperatists because they hate all the Sunnis ? Why nobody ever fired one against Turkish / ex-Turkish until 2016 ? It certainly can't be because back in the days when Turks were all cowards and today not a single New Turkey dude is a coward . Who can ever believe that it would be taken seriously back in the mists of time , if the words ATGM and rectum were used in the same sentence , the resulting threat would be considered viable ? Is being a delivery terminal for Qatari Saudi CIA TOWs a reason for the Syrians and the like to dare to take the plunge ?
If the world or me and stuff survive until Monday , the truth or something behind the darkest intelligence service of Star Trek , the bane of Klingons and Kirk alike ... You know , it becomes amazingly stupid to see all this happening only because the very fundemantalist parts of the Western Mind can not bring it self to force Ankara to give away stuff and it would be over in minutes ; they have to trick us and all that jazz .
there's a limit to the length of posts ; nobody likes walls of texts and so on . The spoiler below contains two posts from the Qatar thread , a crisis which started as a sword of Damocles thing to scare us to accept the referandum with out stuff . If not , economic crisis and civil war ... If accepted , civil war deferred a couple of years . We will see what happenz and stuff . The one at the bottom will point to the one on top , no need to follow them on that page .
Spoiler :
and of course Xenforo being idiotic to say the least it doesn't lead to the posts but to the page . Look for posts numbered 282 and 298 ...
this second spoiler points to the edit of my first post in this thread , space issues and all
Spoiler :
part 4 , might see edits to add more
Spoiler :
it has been a non-stop event . Europe was behind the A-K-P as individual rights were improved . Not that ı have any single right to oppose that but let's just remember South Cyprus was taken into the EU as the public here was awash with rights and more rights . Rauf Denktaş has been kinda over ambitious many many times , and he nearly blew up the landings in Cyprus . Not , as the Greeks already knew we were coming . So ? Denktaş is like bona fide a hero of the country in the 20th Century . He was declared a traitor in Ankara , and every body was like in applause . Because the Kemalists hate the Greeks , that's why they invented the Cyprus issue . Ankara would give up the island and the island would join the EU . All the human rights was in that direction and we would get in , too . There was an Annan plan that surrendered the island and Turkish Cypriots accepted with great pleasure , thinking of the Euros that would rain down from Bruxelles . greek Cypriots rejected with great pleasure as the "veto" powers had been "removed" . Human rights were still floodingthe country though . Kemalists had killed the Armenians . Which naturally led to this Armenian journalist shot dead . As repeatedly said , some rather different kind of "Turkish patriot" he was . His death was the fault of Kemalists , even if there are so many Congregation members who will get life sentences for the murder and it's fully justified , too . "Muslims" were never at fault . They decided Kemalists had bragged far too much with the 10 000 kilometers of track they had laid back in the day ; so they brought fast trains to the country . You know , by ordering trains to run faster on rails that wouldn't support the speed . Naturally one derailed , 40 killed . The manager sacked , too . Do you know what happens ? Some journalist goes to football match and the "Muslim" watches the same game and explains what had actually happened , shouting over the din ... In 1989 , Bulgarians force thousands of Turks out . Naturally some are the agents of the Communist intelligence like this train driver . He remains hiding for 20 years and when ordered , he derails the train to sabotage the matchless advance of "Muslims" . The same "Muslims" surrendered the whole country to the Congregation and the Southeast to the seperatists . Congregation was too smart , they were so close to the US and long sidelined by the followers of Said-i Nursi , you know , some Kurd , so they basically were jealous of the seperatists and kept arresting their politicos . The start of cracks in the blissful alliance of the Party and the Congregation . Europe and America never cared . The Republic of 1923 has been the enemy of the West , however funny it might be ; no such opposition to the New Turkey .
this is why nobody is fighting for the country , in effect .
you can say anything about human rights and stuff . If a Kurd , you are entitled to them by birth right ; except you will lose them all when there is a Kurdish nation state and the rising oligarchy needs to suck the entire treasury dry . If you are a Turk , nobody cares for you ; as an enemy of mankind . There was this Armenian journalist , the guy who originated the slogan "Not enough, but yes" signifying Liberals should support the A-K-P despite all the apparent failings , as the Kemalists would never do . Unlike good Armenians , those two card carrying members of the A-K-P , he has fallen afoul of the New times and he is a refugee of sorts in Germany . He complains he hasn't been able to find a school for his child for 8 months and once thrown out of an official building for disruptive behaviour . Contrast that with the love Germany shows to the members of the Congregation , those smart ones that will return home to rule us when the need passes . Or the make believe crisis Germany conducts against New Turkey .
the fighting against the seperatists flared when there was a need to embrass the now extinct Turkish Army . Some relative of an arrested coup plotter commands a "base area" that gets attacked , 20 killed and do you know why ? He should have let it happen , to hurt the political standing of the Party to get his uncle released . The PM visits America and there is an attack that kills 7 soldiers on December 7th of some year , It happens in a province where an arrested coup plotting Colonel was born . The Colonel must have arranged it , significant because where he was born and the date , which must be some subliminal message to America . The Party and the seperatists made peace when there was no discernible opposition . It wasn't plain sailing though , the seperatists were creating liberated zones and in some demonstration some guy took down a Turkish flag from some corner of an airbase in Diyarbakır . The soldiers had been ordered to stand down . Only because it made to the TV , there was a storm ; if soldiers were patriots or something they would have shoot the guy down ... The seperatists (seeing a danger in this) surrendered a guy , whose nickname was "Arab" , for his skin colour . See, it wasn't a seperatist who took the flag down . Arabs did it . Then Party practically lost the June elections . The fighting restarted again . The Party won the November elections . Why the seperatists fell for it ? Because America promised making up any losses they suffered . The losses of the Army of Petrol and the Police ? Why , it was a brotherhood school where new kind of "imams" were indoctrinating people in "baby steps" . Also a much useful PR coup as the losses were caused by Congregation generals . Which is actually true , too .
this country actually turned a blind eye to oil smugglers who would arrive on the border with flowing beards and 200 , 500 horsemen and 2000 foot . You know , this was before ISIL rose and started propaganda that we were the Romans and they would beat us in Armageddon . Hark back to 1979 and you will see the occupiers of Kabe had transistor radios on them to listen to the progress of an Army from the North , you know the only one that has actually defended Islam over centuries , then supposedly Kemalist , march all the way through Syria and Iraq to save God's House . Saudis got bored , so they hired French as advisors and Pakistanis as boots . ISIL actually folded for the benefit of New Turkey when the Army of Petrol did stage this kinda odd coup attempt and got defeated . If they have 50 000 traitors in , why only 6 000 rise ? Because America created the system to get them in , so that they could stab the Kemalists in the back , but it became a cancer and the now extinct Turkish Armed Forces was thus killed on the cheap . But nobody cares for the Army of Petrol ? On the 500th anniversary of Mercidabık , a battle in which the Ottomans had defeated the Egyptian Memluks , they marched out to the tune of Mehter . Which would never happen had Mursi still been in charge in Cairo . He was a brother , New Turkey respects brothers as long as they are not Turkish . They heroically set out for 5000 square kilometers , but unfortunately ask for significant places on the map ; the staff kinda feeling there might still be court martials for them in some undisclosed future . America doesn't like it at all , finally allowing 2000 . So , the Army of Petrol ends up fighting beardies , you know with thousands marching from seperatist checkpoints and stuff . Though nothing to complain much about ; in Syria it happens everyday , to all sides ... And wow , everybody blows up ex-Turkish tanks . Guided anti-tank missiles exist since the Second World War , Germans used hundreds of rounds in 1945 . The Hungarians started their own programme because the Germans were so jealous and refused to share their invention . Them seperatists are Marxist Leninists , crypto Armenians and servants of Moscow , according to the narrative of the 1980s while Russians have a gazillion of ATGMs in inventory ? Or Hizbullah practically routed the Israelis in 2006 with the same and Iran supports the seperatists because they hate all the Sunnis ? Why nobody ever fired one against Turkish / ex-Turkish until 2016 ? It certainly can't be because back in the days when Turks were all cowards and today not a single New Turkey dude is a coward . Who can ever believe that it would be taken seriously back in the mists of time , if the words ATGM and rectum were used in the same sentence , the resulting threat would be considered viable ? Is being a delivery terminal for Qatari Saudi CIA TOWs a reason for the Syrians and the like to dare to take the plunge ?
If the world or me and stuff survive until Monday , the truth or something behind the darkest intelligence service of Star Trek , the bane of Klingons and Kirk alike ... You know , it becomes amazingly stupid to see all this happening only because the very fundemantalist parts of the Western Mind can not bring it self to force Ankara to give away stuff and it would be over in minutes ; they have to trick us and all that jazz .