The scum having to win by the end of N7 is an unusual mechanic, and in a game where their kills can be prevented - apparently in several different ways - there must be some pretty significant compensation.
Agreed.
It could very well be that there are still two scum alive. Four scum from the start sounds high, though. So, there's the possibility that BL raised: that a player or players might be converted to the scum team by a mask or masks.
Possible, but a bit bastard.
Thus, Visor's D2 acquisition of KingMorgan's Sable Mask is something that needs another look.
This what led up to it:
And these followed:
At the time I felt this all seemed a bit off, but now we know that Newyn was scum, and with Legato being high on the suspect list as well, it's by no means impossible that what we're looking at is Visor being deliberately recruited by means of the Sable mask. As I discuss below, Visor's reaction to the mask doesn't really fit with what he later claimed for it. However, one part of his reaction makes total sense if acquiring the mask converted him to the scum team (or, for that matter, if they were already scumbuddies): immediately distancing himself from Newyn.
I traded votes with newyn for a mask that i thought would give me the ability to kill someone. I know after getting it that it is not the case, and is why I suspect Newyn. That kind of turnaround doesn't seem particularly scumlike in hindsight does it?
Later on in the game, we have a bit more from Visor on the subject of the Sable mask:He says this, but he doesn't mention either Newyn or Legato by name. In fact, his named suspects that day are me (though only in response to Autolycus voting me), Takhisis (who he votes for initially, and is 'pretty sure about') and Autolycus (who he switches his vote to after BL makes a case, and just before Newyn claimed a scan clearing BL). So, to be crystal clear, he says the scum were happy to vote the mask to him, whilst completely ignoring the people who voted the mask to him as possible suspects.
Look, you know how I play by now. I forget where I'm at as town, my suspicions can change pretty rapidly. I thought scum voted me the mask because they knew it was worthless - which was probably true based on d2.
This is yesterday. Three days after receiving a mask the powers of which were already known to scum, Visor finally chooses to tell us what it does. But only after BL's revelation of the roleblock, which makes Newyn the default lynch, unless some other explanation for the missed kill can be found. At any point prior to this, Visor could have revealed what the Sable mask was for, thus giving the town information that the scum already knew. But, instead, he held off until Newyn's defence needed alternate mechanics that might have caused a no-kill.
Because the mask does nothing. I was lying. The mask presumably had an ability, but KM used it to kill Riedquat. The mask does nothing and can only do something if broken.
Scum cannot know that because only I had the mask with a multiple so they cannot know what that mask does when broken (or maybe all masks do that when broken, not sure).
Why on earth would I defend Newyn and vote BL as scum. I'm a careful mafia player, I don't do stupid things like that.
Alongside the anti-town delay in claiming a power for the Sable mask, we also should look at the nature of that claim in relation to his earlier allusions. The claimed power isn't useless - indeed, it seems to make it a bad idea for the scum to target Visor, in case he was hiding behind one of their own number. As far as I can see, the main problem it might pose to the town is that of confusion. But that problem could quite easily have been dealt with in the very first place, simply by telling the town what the scum already knew about the mask. But looking at how Visor talked about the mask previously, he was very clearly implying that the mask was either useless or actively unhelpful.
As above.
There is no townie explanation here. The first charge is withholding information from town that the scum already know. The second charge is waiting to reveal that information until a time when it might help a scumbag dodge the lynch. The third charge is strongly implying things about the information which does not fit with the eventual reveal.
Backwards didn't reveal his complete info, are you going to call him scum?
Whether the mask converted him, or he was evil from the start, from where I'm sitting the evidence points quite clearly to Visorslash being scum.
