Lennier
Emperor
If either you or the target nation or both are in a war, you can't sign a defensive pact. A defensive pact is only in effect when bot civs are at peace; if one gets DoW'd, the other will declare war on the offending civilization. (And then the DP goes away.)I am in this game where I an trying to get a nation into a defense pact and or permanent alliance, but it just doesn't seem to want to come up as options. The nations friendly to me, it's a sea of green likes, with my gifting or selling cheap techs, us fighting the same enemies, same religion because of espionage, etc. etc. I am not the weakest nation, the other nations not the strongest. I even agreed to a war with the only other nation I wasn't fighting besides this one, not good enough? What do I need to do? At this point I want to see it just to see it, even if it doesn't contribute to a win or I could win some other way.
If you are too powerful, you can't get into a PA