Brilliant.. will try this in a sec..
Few folk need history lessons in this thread though.. but I ain't gonna start..
Needless to say.. Firaxis committed the ultimate sin by using only the "English Empire" as a civ.. and even more of a sin by using Queen Victoria as a leader of the "English" Empire when she was the Queen of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - not England..
As far as Scotland being a "historical state" - bad use of the words for a start as what constitutes a historical nation?
Been around as long as England has. At the moment too, (and since the Union) England does not exist as a Nation State.. neither does Scotland..
"We" (as in Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland) exist as the UK (and within that lies Great Britain (only Scotland and England - not Wales or NI - constitute Great Britain).. QE2 is as much the head of state of Scotland as she is of England. In fact she is more Scottish by blood than she is English.
Strictly speaking, of course we each have our own legal system and education system but constitutionally (although we don't have one by law) Scotland and England exist as two nations within a Nation State (I think that's how it is seen). Unlike Wales, which is a Principality and Ulster which is a province..
Clear? lol..
So big boo boo on Fireaxis's part.. Only way round it was to choose Queen Vic as leader and rename the so-called "English Empire" as the British Empire and put up with the English Flag instead of the Union Jack.
So ta... any chance of a Union Jack to go alongside that? I'm as British as I am Scots..
Oh, and Ireland has absolutely SFA to do with Scotland as far as I'm concerned.. prefer fellow Britons to that lot.. historically, where I'm from lay in Strathclyde from where the Kings of Briton ruled. The true Britons are the lowland Scots and the Welsh and the Ulster Scots were from Ayrshire. The "Scots" from Ireland settled up in teuchter land and fought the Picts..
Few folk need history lessons in this thread though.. but I ain't gonna start..
Needless to say.. Firaxis committed the ultimate sin by using only the "English Empire" as a civ.. and even more of a sin by using Queen Victoria as a leader of the "English" Empire when she was the Queen of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - not England..
As far as Scotland being a "historical state" - bad use of the words for a start as what constitutes a historical nation?
Been around as long as England has. At the moment too, (and since the Union) England does not exist as a Nation State.. neither does Scotland..
"We" (as in Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland) exist as the UK (and within that lies Great Britain (only Scotland and England - not Wales or NI - constitute Great Britain).. QE2 is as much the head of state of Scotland as she is of England. In fact she is more Scottish by blood than she is English.
Strictly speaking, of course we each have our own legal system and education system but constitutionally (although we don't have one by law) Scotland and England exist as two nations within a Nation State (I think that's how it is seen). Unlike Wales, which is a Principality and Ulster which is a province..
Clear? lol..
So big boo boo on Fireaxis's part.. Only way round it was to choose Queen Vic as leader and rename the so-called "English Empire" as the British Empire and put up with the English Flag instead of the Union Jack.
So ta... any chance of a Union Jack to go alongside that? I'm as British as I am Scots..
Oh, and Ireland has absolutely SFA to do with Scotland as far as I'm concerned.. prefer fellow Britons to that lot.. historically, where I'm from lay in Strathclyde from where the Kings of Briton ruled. The true Britons are the lowland Scots and the Welsh and the Ulster Scots were from Ayrshire. The "Scots" from Ireland settled up in teuchter land and fought the Picts..