Dhoomstriker
Girlie Builder
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Lightbulbing Astronomy will be a considerably faster approach than using Liberalism to grab Astronmy, by a wide margin.I totally forgot that we can't build maces without CS Another consideration is that we can instead use the GS's to bulb towards liberalism for astronomy. It'll take 4-ish (philo, 2xedu, liberalism) but with a decent GP farm that shouldn't be hard. I think someone mentioned that galleons may be better for troops logistics with the added movement points too.
Don't forget that in addition to all of the techs towards Liberalism that you mentioned, we would STILL need to somehow research, Lightbulb, or be lucky enough to trade for all of Astronomy's pre-requisites... and there isn't really much overlap in the two paths.
Another minor consideration is that in order to get Optics, you need Machinery, but if you learn Machinery, then Liberalism cannot be Lightbulbed. Not really a big deal, since you could Lightbulb a tech like Optics instead, but don't count on being able to Lightbulb part of Liberalism while taking Astronomy... unless you're playing on a difficulty level so low that you can research Liberalism's pre-requisites, partially Lightbulb it, then still manage to research Machinery + Optics (+ Calendar if you skipped it) in that time... you might get those techs via trades, but basically, it's easier just to plan to Lightbulb techs OTHER than Liberalism.
Whoa! This no-colonial-maintenance bit is a huge implication. I'm going to have to check this stuff out in a test game, or someone can confirm, but it sounds like you are saying that we will NOT incur additional Maintenance Costs for havaing multiple Cities on the same non-starting landmass. That's like "back to the good old days" and implies that capturing and keeping a ton of off-of-the-mainland AI Cities won't hurt nearly as much as it does in a BtS game with Vassals enabled.Also in case any one forgot, vassals are off = no colonial maintenance (yay!). Not that we should be teching that far anyways. And state property for the instant return will probably be better.
Vassals being disabled also means that we can't spawn a Colony, right?
In regards to no Macemen... if we can find Ivory, we could instead go the Amphibious War Elephants route...