thomson_2001
The Hero of Sween
hahah uh oh, here we go again! ill get the blue face paint out
I couldn't say why England was chosen over Britain, as I do not care. I just would hate to see the British Flag in this game.
And Soneji - how can you both claim that the British Empire would have been less successful without the Scottish and then try to pass all blame off for any mistakes on the English solely? Either you were a significant part or you weren't?
It wasn’t Scots deciding to go pillage the world. Scotland never had the blood thirsty ambition and traits (internationally) that England had, it only wanted it own self contained bubble (and the odd failed non fledging colony).
Actually the highland clearances were actually carried out by highland chieftains who need the land for more profitable sheep I think it was. Not right I think, but it was not the English.
With respect... the fact is that you were rampant pillaging aggressors... and very successful at it.
Your attacks forced constant reprisals from many nations - not just the "English" (who you are I assume meaning post unification England.... but also from the Saxons, Vikings, Celts, Romans..... they all had to deal with your people aggressively as you dealt with them.
Please do not characterise your people as peaceniks... they were as bloodthirsty and aggressive as their enemies.
As it is, rather than being utterly vanquished and swallowed by England, they were given a partial, if not complete, unity that lead to great riches and heightening of culture.
Scotland would not be where it is today if it wasn't a) part of the U.K. and b) Hadn't been involved in colonialism too.
hahah uh oh, here we go again! ill get the blue face paint out
"Saxons, Vikings, Celts, Romans"
We are talking about the British Empire, not the 2,500 year history of the British Isles.
"As it is, rather than being utterly vanquished and swallowed by England, they were given a partial, if not complete, unity that lead to great riches and heightening of culture."
Complete Unity? Are we talking about the same country? Scotland was politically subjugated.
Great riches for whom? A nation? No. A minority already in a position of loftiness? Yes.
I don't know why you'd hate to see your flag represented in the game... it is after all legally your flag too.... even if you choose to ignore the other components, it has Saint Andrew's cross clearly emblazoned across it.... taking up the largest amount of space proportionately.
Seems like you didnt actually read what I said.... or more significantly, read what you wanted to in it.
I said that you were given "partial unity" - even if that was not complete unity. Which is still a damn sight more than Wales ever got.... or India... or wherever else.
Your people made the decision at the time, you should rail against them, not against the English who could have done a lot worse. Not that I am in any way supporting or condoning what the English enacted on their subjugated peoples.
You also seem happy to remove the blame from all the other peoples of the empire yet somehow stack all of the blame at the doors of the English. That's just nationalism speaking, it certainly isn't facts. There were plenty of Scots who drooled at the chance to take part in the international plundering that colonialism was.
I know its hard to accept hard facts about the country you love, but dont try to push away all the blame onto another country.
Whatever the case, this is again becoming a platform to bash another group's nation instead of discussing the thread at hand.
If you want to persist in addressing and decrying English domination of Scotland and the subsequent subjugation, why don't you go and make a thread specifically on that in the Off Topic forum.... this one is for BtS and is about a game.
Reasoning.. bit harsh lol. Imperialism, the death of conscience. People are entitled to their views, if you agree or not.
No I'm not fussed, you bash on! I've got to go get some lunch now anyway
Although I would genuinely like to know the reason for Britain and its non inclusion in the game.
Oh and bash on is a saying, similar to 'please continue'. I was not hinting at you bashing me..
He came to prominence most through the Battle of New Orleans, fought in 1815, some months after the peace treaty for the War of 1812 had been signed (news traveled slow then). He smashed the living hell out of a British army of 6-7,000 veterans of Wellington's Peninsula army and he did it with a smaller army comprised of a small core of US regulars, Indians, Kentucky riflemen, a company of Free Blacks from New Orleans, Pirates from the Carribean (honest - the Pirate Jean LaFite (spelling?), and various Mississippi River rats, an army as mongrel as the US itself. He inflicted over 2,000 causualties on the English, including wiping out the entire command structure, killing the Commander general and the next half dozen people in line of command and Jackson's army suffered less than 150 casualties. Astonishing.