Trump Indicted!

[Joij21]

Well they're killing themselves.

So in that sense suicide protests may be somewhat creative.

Plus it sensationalizes dying forever young. Media loves that #$@*

 

[Aiken_Drumn]

I think we should have sympathy that someone can feel so strongly about an issue they consider that their only option. This is exactly when society should protect such people from themselves.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Likely several. Every judge is giving him every possible consideration in an attempt to give him as little possible grounds for appeal.

He's going to appeal, regardless of how little grounds, or no grounds at all, that he has. Then, ultimately SCOTUS is going to Grant or Deny his appeal based on their own, individual subjective, predetermined reasons, with little to no regard whatsoever for any so-called "grounds".

 

[Farm Boy]

You don't think they interplay with grounds, applying them in various ways?

I guess they could just be party members. There is always the faithless take. It'd be very DNC.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Trump's bond hearing has started.

Meanwhile, bond terms tweaked but $175 million amount remains the same in civil fraud case​

From CNN's Sabrina Souza

Attorneys for former President Donald Trump and the New York attorney general’s office reached an agreement Monday on the terms of the $175 million bond that Trump posted to cover the civil fraud judgment he’s appealing.
The agreement comes after the state attorney general challenged the bond, questioning the financial ability of the underwriter, Knight Specialty Insurance Company, to guarantee it.
Under the terms of the agreement, Trump is required to keep the $175 million in the Charles Schwab account used to secure the bond as cash. Knight Specialty must have exclusive control of the account and may not withdraw or trade any of the funds in it. The company must also provide a monthly statement to the attorney general with the account’s balance. None of the agreements for securing the bond can be amended without the court’s approval, and Knight Specialty must submit to the jurisdiction of the court.

In January, Judge Arthur Engoron fined Trump and his co-defendants, including his adult sons and his company, $464 million, finding they fraudulently inflated the value of the former president’s assets to obtain better loan rates.
Trump has posted the $175 million bond as he appeals the ruling.

 

[Aiken_Drumn]

Does he have to show where that $175 came from?

 

[Birdjaguar]

Does he have to show where that $175 came from?

Yes. Trump's attorney's have to document that the money there and where it comes from. Since it is a bond, they have to show that the bond is actually supported with real funds from a source that is acceptable to NY state.

 

[Gori the Grey]

There's still a scam here, somehow. Because if Trump could meet these terms, he could also just put that same $174m in escrow with the state and not involve any bond agency in the first place.

 

[Aiken_Drumn]

Yes. Trump's attorney's have to document that the money there and where it comes from. Since it is a bond, they have to show that the bond is actually supported with real funds from a source that is acceptable to NY state.

Well that's awesome. Will these details be made public? Do they have to be revealed by a certain date?

 

[Sommerswerd]

There's still a scam here, somehow. Because if Trump could meet these terms, he could also just put that same $174m in escrow with the state and not involve any bond agency in the first place.

The scam is that he doesn't have it... they're banking everything on him ultimately getting bailed out by the SCOTUS.

 

[Velegon]

He's going to appeal, regardless of how little grounds, or no grounds at all, that he has. Then, ultimately SCOTUS is going to Grant or Deny his appeal based on their own, individual subjective, predetermined reasons, with little to no regard whatsoever for any so-called "grounds".

Trump appeals to the Supreme Court so much these days that the US might need to create a second Supreme Court - one dealing with Trump and the Republicans numerous (and often frivolous) appeals and the other dealing with everyone else (I'm just kidding about this of course).

 

[Aiken_Drumn]

In the UK, I don't think you have an automatic right to take things to a higher court every time.

Is it different in the US? If you have money can you force it all the way to the Supreme Court?

 

[Farm Boy]

The higher court doesn't need to agree to take the case, but if it's Trump, there is pressure to do so. State courts and federal courts have thier own circuits, appellate districts, and supreme courts to go along with thier own constitutions to interpret.

 

[Gori the Grey]

Trump appeals to the Supreme Court so much these days that the US might need to create a second Supreme Court - one dealing with Trump and the Republicans numerous (and often frivolous) appeals and the other dealing with everyone else (I'm just kidding about this of course).

Ok, but only if he can appoint all nine Justices to that second Supreme Court.

 

[Yeekim]

Too good not to share... sound up!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1783973585876402566

 

[Birdjaguar]

Thank you!