Trump Indicted!

[Joij21]

Well they're killing themselves.

So in that sense suicide protests may be somewhat creative.

Plus it sensationalizes dying forever young. Media loves that #$@*

 

[Aiken_Drumn]

I think we should have sympathy that someone can feel so strongly about an issue they consider that their only option. This is exactly when society should protect such people from themselves.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Likely several. Every judge is giving him every possible consideration in an attempt to give him as little possible grounds for appeal.

He's going to appeal, regardless of how little grounds, or no grounds at all, that he has. Then, ultimately SCOTUS is going to Grant or Deny his appeal based on their own, individual subjective, predetermined reasons, with little to no regard whatsoever for any so-called "grounds".

 

[Farm Boy]

You don't think they interplay with grounds, applying them in various ways?

I guess they could just be party members. There is always the faithless take. It'd be very DNC.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Trump's bond hearing has started.

Meanwhile, bond terms tweaked but $175 million amount remains the same in civil fraud case​

From CNN's Sabrina Souza

Attorneys for former President Donald Trump and the New York attorney general’s office reached an agreement Monday on the terms of the $175 million bond that Trump posted to cover the civil fraud judgment he’s appealing.
The agreement comes after the state attorney general challenged the bond, questioning the financial ability of the underwriter, Knight Specialty Insurance Company, to guarantee it.
Under the terms of the agreement, Trump is required to keep the $175 million in the Charles Schwab account used to secure the bond as cash. Knight Specialty must have exclusive control of the account and may not withdraw or trade any of the funds in it. The company must also provide a monthly statement to the attorney general with the account’s balance. None of the agreements for securing the bond can be amended without the court’s approval, and Knight Specialty must submit to the jurisdiction of the court.

In January, Judge Arthur Engoron fined Trump and his co-defendants, including his adult sons and his company, $464 million, finding they fraudulently inflated the value of the former president’s assets to obtain better loan rates.
Trump has posted the $175 million bond as he appeals the ruling.

 

[Aiken_Drumn]

Does he have to show where that $175 came from?

 

[Birdjaguar]

Does he have to show where that $175 came from?

Yes. Trump's attorney's have to document that the money there and where it comes from. Since it is a bond, they have to show that the bond is actually supported with real funds from a source that is acceptable to NY state.

 

[Gori the Grey]

There's still a scam here, somehow. Because if Trump could meet these terms, he could also just put that same $174m in escrow with the state and not involve any bond agency in the first place.

 

[Aiken_Drumn]

Yes. Trump's attorney's have to document that the money there and where it comes from. Since it is a bond, they have to show that the bond is actually supported with real funds from a source that is acceptable to NY state.

Well that's awesome. Will these details be made public? Do they have to be revealed by a certain date?

 

[Sommerswerd]

There's still a scam here, somehow. Because if Trump could meet these terms, he could also just put that same $174m in escrow with the state and not involve any bond agency in the first place.

The scam is that he doesn't have it... they're banking everything on him ultimately getting bailed out by the SCOTUS.

 

[Velegon]

He's going to appeal, regardless of how little grounds, or no grounds at all, that he has. Then, ultimately SCOTUS is going to Grant or Deny his appeal based on their own, individual subjective, predetermined reasons, with little to no regard whatsoever for any so-called "grounds".

Trump appeals to the Supreme Court so much these days that the US might need to create a second Supreme Court - one dealing with Trump and the Republicans numerous (and often frivolous) appeals and the other dealing with everyone else (I'm just kidding about this of course).

 

[Aiken_Drumn]

In the UK, I don't think you have an automatic right to take things to a higher court every time.

Is it different in the US? If you have money can you force it all the way to the Supreme Court?

 

[Farm Boy]

The higher court doesn't need to agree to take the case, but if it's Trump, there is pressure to do so. State courts and federal courts have thier own circuits, appellate districts, and supreme courts to go along with thier own constitutions to interpret.

 

[Gori the Grey]

Trump appeals to the Supreme Court so much these days that the US might need to create a second Supreme Court - one dealing with Trump and the Republicans numerous (and often frivolous) appeals and the other dealing with everyone else (I'm just kidding about this of course).

Ok, but only if he can appoint all nine Justices to that second Supreme Court.

 

[Yeekim]

Too good not to share... sound up!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1783973585876402566

 

[Birdjaguar]

Thank you!

 

[Core Imposter]

‘Crime’ of being Trump​

The Manhattan hush-money case is absurd, unjust and outrageously partisan.

The first of Donald Trump’s criminal trials kicked off in earnest this week in New York. Manhattan district attorney Alvin Bragg has charged Trump with 34 felony counts, alleging that he falsified records to cover up a ‘hush money’ payment to porn star Stormy Daniels.
It’s an unprecedented case. Never before has a former US president, or a leading candidate for an upcoming presidential election, faced criminal charges. There’s a good reason why America hasn’t had such a case before: seeking to jail your political opponent is generally understood to be something only banana republics do.

It’s also an absurd and unjust case, involving novel legal theories and obvious political intent. No one other than Donald Trump would be subject to such charges.

The Manhattan trial is part of the ‘lawfare’ offensive that is currently being waged by President Joe Biden and the Democrats against Trump. It is one of four criminal cases that Trump faces. He also has two federal cases, related to his handling of classified documents and to the ‘January 6’ riots, and one in Georgia, alleging that he subverted the 2020 election. These other cases are delayed, so the Manhattan case may be the only one to be tried before the November presidential election. Democrats have even tried to knock Trump off the ballot in multiple states, an anti-democratic scheme that was stymied by the Supreme Court last month.

The Democrats’ aim is to brand Trump as a convicted felon and put him in jail. They’re hoping that a verdict against Trump will give the Biden campaign a decisive advantage in this year’s elections.

Members of the anti-Trump ‘Resistance’ have waited a long time for this day. They are excited to see ‘Hitler Pig’, as Biden’s aides have dubbed him, finally get his comeuppance. For Manhattan district attorney Bragg, this indictment is the fulfilment of his 2021 campaign promise to ‘get’ Trump, by charging him with any crime he could find once elected. Such political targeting by a state official ought to be disqualifying, but in the eyes of Democrats, Bragg is a hero.

While Democrats are crowing at seeing Trump in court, most Americans aren’t buying it. An AP-NORC survey finds that just one in three Americans thinks Trump did something wrong in the hush-money case. Only the most hard-bitten partisan refuses to see how political these charges are. The events in the Manhattan case relate to the 2016 election. Yet the New York district attorney’s office waited seven years to bring an indictment, conveniently landing the case in court during an election year.

Trump is on trial for the ‘crime’ of being Trump

The Manhattan hush-money case is absurd, unjust and outrageously partisan.

www.spiked-online.com

 

[Gori the Grey]

No one other than Donald Trump would be subject to such charges.

Except Michael Cohen.

 

[Cutlass]

‘Crime’ of being Trump​

The Manhattan hush-money case is absurd, unjust and outrageously partisan.

The first of Donald Trump’s criminal trials kicked off in earnest this week in New York. Manhattan district attorney Alvin Bragg has charged Trump with 34 felony counts, alleging that he falsified records to cover up a ‘hush money’ payment to porn star Stormy Daniels.
It’s an unprecedented case. Never before has a former US president, or a leading candidate for an upcoming presidential election, faced criminal charges. There’s a good reason why America hasn’t had such a case before: seeking to jail your political opponent is generally understood to be something only banana republics do.

It’s also an absurd and unjust case, involving novel legal theories and obvious political intent. No one other than Donald Trump would be subject to such charges.

The Manhattan trial is part of the ‘lawfare’ offensive that is currently being waged by President Joe Biden and the Democrats against Trump. It is one of four criminal cases that Trump faces. He also has two federal cases, related to his handling of classified documents and to the ‘January 6’ riots, and one in Georgia, alleging that he subverted the 2020 election. These other cases are delayed, so the Manhattan case may be the only one to be tried before the November presidential election. Democrats have even tried to knock Trump off the ballot in multiple states, an anti-democratic scheme that was stymied by the Supreme Court last month.

The Democrats’ aim is to brand Trump as a convicted felon and put him in jail. They’re hoping that a verdict against Trump will give the Biden campaign a decisive advantage in this year’s elections.

Members of the anti-Trump ‘Resistance’ have waited a long time for this day. They are excited to see ‘Hitler Pig’, as Biden’s aides have dubbed him, finally get his comeuppance. For Manhattan district attorney Bragg, this indictment is the fulfilment of his 2021 campaign promise to ‘get’ Trump, by charging him with any crime he could find once elected. Such political targeting by a state official ought to be disqualifying, but in the eyes of Democrats, Bragg is a hero.

While Democrats are crowing at seeing Trump in court, most Americans aren’t buying it. An AP-NORC survey finds that just one in three Americans thinks Trump did something wrong in the hush-money case. Only the most hard-bitten partisan refuses to see how political these charges are. The events in the Manhattan case relate to the 2016 election. Yet the New York district attorney’s office waited seven years to bring an indictment, conveniently landing the case in court during an election year.

Trump is on trial for the ‘crime’ of being Trump

The Manhattan hush-money case is absurd, unjust and outrageously partisan.

www.spiked-online.com

Partisan hack says partisan hack things to protect partisan hack. Film at 11.

 

[Birdjaguar]

If you read your link this is there also: I guess at least half of Americans would not like to see a convicted felon in the WH. Only 29% would want to see such a felon there. It seems that you approve of both fake accounting in business and illegal campaign funding. So much for law and order. As for the top secret documents case, do you think Trump was acting legally when to took the documents, refused to give them back and then showed them to people who did not have clearances?

Half of US adults say a conviction in hush-money case would make Trump unfit to be president​

Percent who say if Trump were convicted of falsifying business documents to cover up hush money payments to a woman who said he had an affair with her, then...

Yes, I would consider him fit to be president
No, I would not consider him fit to be president
Don't know enough to say
U.S. adults
29%
50%
21%
Democrats
6%
81%
12%
Independents
22%
47%
30%
Republicans
58%
15%
26%

Results based on interviews with 1,204 U.S. adults conducted April 4 - 8, 2024. The margin of error is ±3.9 percentage points for the full sample.Source: The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research