Most well fed. Must be the Maritime CSs.
I think it's because I'm playing 5th that I'm always getting these overviews. Turn 50, turn 100, 150, 200, etc... I've always put the screenshots up, but it's not always relevant. The top bar is more interesting, I think.
grandad1982 said:
My guess is we're making more science per turn than Oda so he was probably the limiting factor for the beaker out put of the last RA. I wish we were using info addict so I could check.... blah blah blah
The ones with Oda have always been very disappointing, so yes, it's him.
NotSure said:
This game was also a good example of the strength of Machu Picchu. Didn't we build it in the last game we played too? I've always liked this wonder, but now I'm thinking it might be the most important build in CiV.
Carthage + Machu Picchu is certainly very strong. I'm surprised about the money we were able to make here with so few rivers.
I think both SG's are also good examples of how strong a good first settler move can be. If we hadn't moved our settler here, we would have lost out on 2 wonders; both Petra and Machu Picchu would not have been possible, and in Von Münchhausen II we gained at least a couple of quarries with it.
Okay, the turns:
1650AD, turn 240 (inherited turn);
Warsaw + Budapest we pledge protection (I later notice it should have been Jakarta instead of Budapest, as Budapest was asking for a Great Admiral, not a Great General).
Move Yzebel from London to Warsaw.
I put 1000 gold in Jerevan for an immediate alliance. Next policy in 8 turns instead of 9.
Hippo Regius has not yet a hammer invested in the triplane. Instead of the triplane I'll build a Temple here, for 2 happy. A Temple is relatively cheap; costs only 5 turns to build.
IBT;
George Washington enters the Modern Era.
Successfully rigged elections: Ragusa and Jerevan.
1655AD, turn 241;
We are now friends with Ragusa and need only 4 influence points more to surpass England. I'm not going to mull over that; 500 gold in Ragusa and they join our club.
I'm moving the successful spies to places where we have no influence yet; Budapest en Jakarta.
Carthago Nova; Factory > Bank
A little aside:
A factory gives 10% extra production + 4 hammers.
Here that works out as 2.76 + 4 = 6.76 hammers per turn (looking at current production of 27.6 hammers per turn).
Because the factory itself Factory costs 360 hammers, this investment will only have earnt itself back after 53 turns from now (360 ÷ 6.76). The game might be over by that time, and then the Factory has only given us a loss of production! That's still overlooking the 3 gpt it costs to maintain.
This team quite often fails to look whether a building gives a good and quick enough return. Especially with smaller towns this props up, as the costs to build and maintain are similar as in a big town, but the returns are normally much less.
IBT;
India denounces America.
RA with Oda comes in, not giving many research turns. Still some 70 turns of research to go (I thought we were at 70 at the start of my set, but I must have miscounted).
New quest Brussels: Ask tribute from Kuala Lumpur. Nah.
1660AD, turn 242;
Plastics > Atoms
Utique; Triplane > Research Lab.
IBT;
Japan denounces England.
We win Kuala Lumpur's culture quest; + 40 influence.
Liz puts on a record by Blondie called Atomic (Elizabeth enters Atomic Age).
1665AD, turn 243;
Oda has more money now than in the last turn, so I'm signing a new RA with him. I must first give him 124 gold for 4 gpt (done in 4 bits), then still I must throw a bit more at it:
IBT;
Oda calls us that Liz is plotting against us. I don't think ever one of those predictions has been correct in this game. We're already scanning Liz' actions by having units with good vision near her borders. I'm not changing policy.
New quest Warsaw: Culture. Good.
1670AD, turn 244;
Saguntum; Factory > Temple (6 followers in Saguntum)
The Factory maths here is that it will do 2.42 + 4 = 6.42 hammers per turn.
360 ÷ 6.42 = 56 turns from now before the Factory will start to give us something back.
Hmm...
IBT;
Oda
Washington.
Oda and Gandhi sign friendship.
It looks like George is starting to lose the dressing room. I don't mind that we haven't got that Defense Pact with George anymore, as it would have been pointless to start a war with Oda now.
Washington asks for an extension of our friendship deal:
George is not very popular anymore, but I think there's a good chance we get his vote if we stay friends, and with the others I don't know. I extend our friendship, although I understand somebody else might have made a different call here.
1675AD, turn 245;
Hippo Regius finishes the Temple, but we're not gaining happiness. Oh, the city should also have also belonged to our religion? I actually knew that, but it had slipped my mind.
Hippo Regius; Temple > Research Lab (20 turns; borderline useful)
Carthage; Triplane > Research Lab
A worker finishes an oil platform, so sell 4 oil to Oda for 180 gold.
IBT;
Renewal Ivory deal with Oda; 20 gold + 7 gpt.
New quest Jakarta; Science. Probably not going to work, with us researching very horizontally from now on.
1680AD, turn 246;
Sell 3 more oil to Oda for 135 gold. We have 32 oil in total, mostly from CS, so whatever we have spare we can easily sell.
IBT;
Rio de Janeiro want Venice bullied. Not something we want anything to do with.
1685AD, turn 247;
Horses (1) to Washington ends, resell to Oda for 45 gold.
Coal to Gandhi also ends, but we have ours all in use now; nothing to resell.
IBT;
Hippo Regius adopts pies. Excellent; now the temple gives happiness.
New quest Warsaw; Statue of Liberty.
1690AD, turn 248;
We can choose a new policy and we go for Warrior Code.
3 CS's acknowledge our General, among which Warsaw and Jakarta. Florence was the other one.
I see now I should have pledged with Jakarta instead of Budapest - it's always the same great person symbol that shows up behind the CS name, so it's easy to mix them up.
Never mind, I'm putting 500 in Warsaw and 500 in Jakarta to ally them both. We are now allied with 10 of the 11 CS's still on the map (Sidon has been conquered by England).
Spices to America has ended, but Washington is a little poor just now. I'm trading the spices for his spare copper instead, this might even be better, since we are getting science for excess happiness (part of Rationalism opener).
Carthago Nova; Bank > Public School
IBT;
Washington signs peace with Jakarta - I hadn't noticed they were at war.
1695AD, turn 249;
Saguntum; Temple > Opera House
A Research Lab would have taken 23 turns here, and I rather build something that will give a return earlier.
Horses (3) to Darius ended; resell to Oda for 135 gold.
IBT;
Persia denounces England.
1700AD, turn 250;
Left for next player.
Next policy is to come in in 15 turns. Our culture has sped up quite a bit in my set, must be through the new cultural CS's.
I haven't upgraded any units. Without any direct military threat or military plan I never see much use in that. I've put it all in CS's, so we still got a significant surge in scientific and cultural development, even though we didn't finish a single science or culture building.
This is the intrigue overview:
Budapest is the only CS we are not allied with as yet.
Excess happiness is interesting with the Rationalism opener. I wouldn't automatically sell spare resources for money anymore. If we can trade for luxes this gives us science:
The total science from excess happiness goes up slowly, I think this means it's calculated over a number of turns, not just the current one.
Atomic Theory is to come in next turn. Techs I've queued all the way to Globalization. I don't normally queue things, but I believe there's nothing else to do here than to go straight for the UN.