war with north korea becoming more likely

[Dachs]

A few of them as in, half of us are dead and the rest of the country is unlivable yes

You got a weird idea of what a nuclear weapon can do, sport.

 

[Enkidu Warrior]

Yeah, nuclear weapons are completely safe. I drop a few of them on my lawn to kill weeds every week.

Sorry, that was a bit lame, but seriously, nuclear war with China killing half of America is not so out there, at least not when considering the aftermath. Massive ecological damage and a probable collapse of society would not be pretty.

 

[RulerOfDaPeople]

Perhaps this is just the first sign of the 2012 Mayan Dooms day proficy.

 

[holy king]

There is still no peace agreement from the Korean War, only a cease-fire. We are still, technically, at war with them.

isnt the isle of wright still at war with germany?
what has this got to do with anything important?

 

[RedRalph]

You got a weird idea of what a nuclear weapon can do, sport.

Rest of the country unliveable, maybe, but killing half the US population with nuclear weapons is very doable.

 

[Cutlass]

There is still no peace agreement from the Korean War, only a cease-fire. We are still, technically, at war with them.

Are we technically at war, wasn't it a police action?

 

[GoodGame]

Are we technically at war, wasn't it a police action?

For the USA's involvement it was a police action (of war-like intensity). For the Koreas it's still an ongoing war with a long-running armistice. AFAIK, the USA never declared war on NK, and said it was assisting with the UN resolution against NK.

Amusingly if you google declaration of war, you get tons of stories of NK asserting this, that and the other thing amount to a declaration of war.

 

[Dachs]

Rest of the country unliveable, maybe, but killing half the US population with nuclear weapons is very doable.

...with less than forty ICBMs, probably only about half of which are targeted at America anyway?

 

[RedRalph]

...with less than forty ICBMs, probably only about half of which are targeted at America anyway?

40 that you know about, and then theres the SLBMs... if they manage to get LA, NY, Chicago, etc etcd... then yeah, probably.

 

[holy king]

...with less than forty ICBMs, probably only about half of which are targeted at America anyway?

since 80 percent of americans live in urban areas it probably is possible.

 

[IglooDame]

40 that you know about, and then theres the SLBMs... if they manage to get LA, NY, Chicago, etc etcd... then yeah, probably.

Chinese SLBMs? No.

Not to get all Patroklos-esque here, but trust me when I say that they would get maybe one SLBM launched from their boomer only if the US/Japanese sub shadowing it was asleep at the wheel.

 

[RedRalph]

Chinese SLBMs? No.

Not to get all Patroklos-esque here, but trust me when I say that they would get maybe one SLBM launched from their boomer only if the US/Japanese sub shadowing it was asleep at the wheel.

OK, I'll take your word for it. but the ICBMs...

 

[Bronx Warlord]

OK, I'll take your word for it. but the ICBMs...

The track record on NK is not looking good. Most of it is communist made crap. Also I don't care how bathorsehocky crazy that little guy with the gotti-boy haircut thinks he is. He is never going to fire a single one of them at the US and he knows it. China knows it too. Are you really that politically naive to think that China is going to let some flea ridden pesant bullies who can't comprehend Lennin or Mao to get into a nuke exchange with it's #1 tradeing partner? Walmart alone is a bigger trade partner with China than a lot of nations. Get your mind right,

 

[RedRalph]

The track record on NK is not looking good. Most of it is communist made crap. Also I don't care how bathorsehocky crazy that little guy with the gotti-boy haircut thinks he is. He is never going to fire a single one of them at the US and he knows it. China knows it too. Are you really that politically naive to think that China is going to let some flea ridden pesant bullies who can't comprehend Lennin or Mao to get into a nuke exchange with it's #1 tradeing partner? Walmart alone is a bigger trade partner with China than a lot of nations. Get your mind right,

Read back the thread, you have misunderstood what I'm saying

 

[Bronx Warlord]

Read back the thread, you have misunderstood what I'm saying

It's cool. We both know the minute luxuries like burger king, electricity, porno and human rights get a hold there in the north we will have one Korea.

 

[RedRalph]

It's cool. We both know the minute luxuries like burger king, electricity, porno and human rights get a hold there in the north we will have one Korea.

Have no idea what you are tlaking about now

 

[IglooDame]

OK, I'll take your word for it. but the ICBMs...

With the ICBMs, I agree with you - the anti-NK ABM site in Alaska might thin them a little, but a dozen 1-megaton bombs hitting the US?

Take six cities on a map (say LA, Chicago, Seattle, Honolulu, San Francisco, and San Diego) and draw circles ten miles in diameter in them. Roughly speaking, everyone in that circle dies.

And for good measure, one ICBM detonating high enough to cause EMP effects across the western US.

I don't know about half the population dead, but there's no question that an all-out Chinese nuclear attack would cripple the US, from a civilian economic perspective. It'd be little comfort that China itself would be glowing.

 

[RedRalph]

Of course, China would be hit far worse. Half the US pop wouldnt die immediately, but just imagine the effects on the economy and the knock on effects on agriculture, the ability to provide healthcare industry, law & order etc...

 

[JerichoHill]

With the ICBMs, I agree with you - the anti-NK ABM site in Alaska might thin them a little, but a dozen 1-megaton bombs hitting the US?

Take six cities on a map (say LA, Chicago, Seattle, Honolulu, San Francisco, and San Diego) and draw circles ten miles in diameter in them. Roughly speaking, everyone in that circle dies.

Here you're wrong ID. Based on the wiki diagram and the text, its a 3-4 mile radius for either death or bad radiation poisoning.
its a minor disagreement

 

[RedRalph]

Are the Chinese ICBM warheads one megatons?