What’s Going on With Teens?

[Birdjaguar]

My guess that is more likely to be microbiome or immune than internet use. This study just came out and could be relevant.

Hunter-gatherer lifestyle fosters thriving gut microbiome

A team of researchers has sequenced gut microbiomes from Hadza people — members of a hunter-gatherer society in northern Tanzania — and compared them with those from people in Nepal and California1. The study has found not only that the Hadza tend to have more gut microorganisms than people in the other groups, but that a Western lifestyle seems to diminish the diversity of gut populations.

The Hadza had an average of 730 species of gut microbe per person. The average Californian gut microbiome contained just 277 species, and the Nepali microbiomes fell in between. People with a farming-based lifestyle had an average of 436 microbe species, whereas those who live by foraging had an average of 317.

The team also found species in the Hadza microbiomes that were not present in the Californian samples, such as the corkscrew-shaped bacterium Treponema succinifaciens. Only some of the Nepali microbiomes contained this microbe, suggesting that the bacterium is dying out as societies become more industrialized.

Eat more dirt; clean less!

 

[Narz]

I'm not in the habit of discussing strawmen, no.

So as usual you have no theories or anything to contribute of your own, just popped in to dismiss the experience of others

 

[Narz]

Eat more dirt; clean less!

I wouldn't eat it but playing in it is good & yeah, sterile environments bad for you.

 

[Gorbles]

So as usual you have no theories or anything to contribute of your own, just popped in to dismiss the experience of others

Your experience is your own, and I'm not dismissing it.

It's just statistically insignificant and not evidence of anything at scale. Which is what you tried to use it as. You used your personal experience as evidence to a sweeping generalisation about kids.

My issue is with your argument; not your life experiences.

 

[Kyriakos]

I'd be surprised if there are more than a couple of regular OT posters who are in their teens.
So perhaps we don't have the demographic to actually speak from experience? ^^

 

[dusters]

I'd be surprised if there are more than a couple of regular OT posters who are in their teens.
So perhaps we don't have the demographic to actually speak from experience? ^^

I teach teens every academic year. I can`t speak for other countries, but in Latvia support system is bad. A young person who is under 18 gets ten free visits to psychologist, but after that it is a paid service. And rate is like 30 euros for hour when minimal wage is 620 euros per month. So most parents don`t bother I guess.

Teens are under a lot of peer pressure to wear good clothes, have new gadgets, all that nonsense as in materialistic consumer society. Boys are still very shy, girls have self-esteem issues due to comparing themselves to some imaginary ideal. Depression among teens during covid-19 was rampant and they have not recovered fully. Oh, and there are a lot of nihilistic teens as well. They think that society is bad, parents are slaves to system, drugs don`t work, you can escape playing video games. Sometimes they fail to escape and just get anxiety. I could continue...

 

[choxorn]

The amount of "the kids are online and therefore not going outside" in this thread is hilariously out of touch. They do both. They've always done both. Before the Internet it was TV, before the TV it was radio, before radio it was books.

Of course alot of that is her mom's fault but kids just aren't outside playing like they were 30 years ago.

 

[Farm Boy]

"They" built?

No, only some forces create neverending dead concrete sprawl. But they have a lot of money.

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

I teach teens every academic year. I can`t speak for other countries, but in Latvia support system is bad. A young person who is under 18 gets ten free visits to psychologist, but after that it is a paid service. And rate is like 30 euros for hour when minimal wage is 620 euros per month. So most parents don`t bother I guess.

This is so much better than America lmao

 

[dusters]

This is so much better than America lmao

Teens here are cuttin`, over there they are shootin`
I guess so.

 

[Kyriakos]

While here you can get free psychiatric care at state hospitals (obviously without having to be interned there), privately it costs (usually) 50 euros/hour.
The negative is that, due to demand, at times the patient might not be able to meet the (freely provided) psychiatrist for the weekly appointment and possibly another day within the week is arranged.

 

[dusters]

While here you can get free psychiatric care at state hospitals (obviously without having to be interned there), privately it costs (usually) 50 euros/hour.
The negative is that, due to demand, at times the patient might not be able to meet the (freely provided) psychiatrist for the weekly appointment and possibly another day within the week is arranged.

For children it mostly starts as a childhood trauma. Then it can turn to neurosis. If untreated, neurosis - into personality disorder. If that is untreated as well, psychiatric illness. So - who cares if we have free surgeons for traffic accidents if it is traffic rules we should teach? (parable)

 

[Zardnaar]

Think you get 10 free sessions here but there's a shortage good luck waiting.

 

[choxorn]

You guys are getting free psychiatrist visits?

 

[Zardnaar]

You guys are getting free psychiatrist visits?

I think so. Some at least I'm not sure.

 

[dusters]

You guys are getting free psychiatrist visits?

I said it is for kids under 18...

 

[Hygro]

You guys are getting free psychiatrist visits?

Yes

 

[Arwon]

You guys are getting free psychiatrist visits?

Only if you end up in hospital as an acute risk of suicide pretty much. Long wait lists and often hundreds of dollars an appointment otherwise. There's a catastrophic underfunding of mental health in general in Australia.

 

[Zardnaar]

Only if you end up in hospital as an acute risk of suicide pretty much. Long wait lists and often hundreds of dollars an appointment otherwise. There's a catastrophic underfunding of mental health in general in Australia.

Long waitlusts here as well. Shortage of all medical specialists nurses on up.