[Vote] (1-14) Greatly Increase Production Requirements Of World Congress Collaborative Wonders

[rkkn]

I think tripling the cost would be about right (but I haven't exactly done any rigorous analysis).
all reward tiers too

Currently they complete in about a turn and a half. It'll complete in two turns with the total contribution being double the requirement.

Also I think the reward to cost ratio is a little skewed. A world wonder typically takes more than 2 turns of effort, and should. Sure it's all of your cities, but it's still just 1 or 2 turns of effort.
Plus, extra production cost would shift it a little away from straight up a check to see who has the most production, which is quite boring, and a little more towards who is most willing to invest in it. since it'd be more of a commitment.

As a side note, I believe tripling the cost would only about double the effort needed by the top contenders. In my experience, it'll be 90+% complete after 1 turn, but the top competitors still need to go max on it both turns just to compete with each other. Triple production would make it complete in 4 turns.

 

[Zanteogo]

Does the cost scale with map size currently?

If not, it should.

Other than that, I agree. You might as well put all your cities working on them, because it will be done so quickly and you get a wonder once done so it's a no brainer. The AI often doesn't do this however.

 

[nekokon]

If possible technically I suggest we tie the cost to total score of all civ in the world on the turn it's passed, in case we had a too late or too early world congress.

 

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Total cost is currently (fixed number * # of civs in the world).

Silver is (fixed number)

Bronze is (fixed number / 2)

Where fixed number = the base Production cost for that project.

 

[beginner_]

If possible technically I suggest we tie the cost to total score of all civ in the world on the turn it's passed, in case we had a too late or too early world congress.

This makes the most sense. The issue with too quick building is that usually they get voted on way later than the resolution is available. If I can suggest a resolution, I will rarely choose such a project early on.

In terms of medals, I think at least bronze should be harder as I rarley see a civ not getting it.

 

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[phantomaxl1207]

I imagine we'll have to rework the AI's valuation of these proposals so that smaller Empires won't be so willing vote against them.

 

[Slyceth]

Yes BUT add a button to make all cities work on the world congress project and turn back when you got exactly 50% done.

I know I proposed this 3 times but it really pertains to this Proposal considering it's so easy to waste many turns on a collaborative wonder you've already gotten #1 on.

Possible problem: Not enough players collaborate and it never gets finished, or worse, a weak AI might fully invest in the collaborative wonder as the only one, and be stuck 25 turns building it alone while the rest of the world is building units, and then still losing because another civ already built 50% of the entire wonder then dipped out haha.

 

[Stalker0]

Yes BUT add a button to make all cities work on the world congress project and turn back when you got exactly 50% done.

I know I proposed this 3 times but it really pertains to this Proposal considering it's so easy to waste many turns on a collaborative wonder you've already gotten #1 on.

Possible problem: Not enough players collaborate and it never gets finished, or worse, a weak AI might fully invest in the collaborative wonder as the only one, and be stuck 25 turns building it alone while the rest of the world is building units, and then still losing because another civ already built 50% of the entire wonder then dipped out haha.

We look forward to seeing this proposal next month. Also Balparmak did create a modmod that will convert all of your cities to a project production, but it doesn't do the 50% part.

 

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