A Cry For Information

[Ranger99]

Alright this isn;t a big issue, BUT as a Deputy (kind of) to the Minister of Defense andas a concerned citizen/military thinker, I call upoun all who attened and play the turnchats to provide us all with more information!

I check the Turnchats as best I can and look at all of the Screenshots, but find very little related to the things I need to see, in military operations even the smallest details are needed. I do not personally have Conoquests, therefore I cnanot see the Saves...But I can make my way around that by havong a little more information.

All I ask is that all military units, except garrisoned units, (unless they are in sight of enemies) be screenshoted every single turn, as well as all intelligence that we get of the enemy and their actions.

I'd also like a more detailed report of all the military actions that go on throughout the turnchat, like for example, while Provolution gave a detailed account of the Siege of Leipzig, (Which was exactly what I needed to see THANK YOU) he told very little about the Battle of Athena against the Thracian Barabarians.

To plan out operations I NEED these Screenshots, every single one of them, as well as detailed accounts. It seems tedious but to plan an operation and account for what we'll be up against I need these shots.

So you don't need to post all of them, post the importnat ones, and e-mail the rest to me at;

ethan@cgsicorp.com

Ohh yeah, if I start getting junk mail from people I'll know who sent it to me! please Business related e-mails only! Thanks

Sorry to ask so much of our DP's but I just really can't get a feel for our operations without these

Thanks!

-Ranger99-

 

[Provolution]

Well, Athena ran into 2X4 Thracian Warriors up north by the jungle, one by the coast and one tile inwards. Of course she died. Other than that, no battles, and all threatening units are around us. Now your military intel is complete.
The embassy screens got the rest.

 

[DaveShack]

A screenshot of every unit every turn would be far too much work for the DP's! What we do traditionally supply, and you should be expecting to see, is a detailed record of battles, a somewhat less detailed record of movements, and reports of what our units see.

 

[zyxy]

There should be a save for every 5 turns. Even if you don't have C3C, you can check the save with civassist, it shows troop locations as well (to some extent). It might be better to ask to DP to report any interesting information in the summary. It's less work for them.

 

[Furiey]

When I was DPing I saved every turn at the end of the turn just in case I had PC crash problems, sometimes at the beginning/part way through as well depending on how paranoid I got. I also took a lot of screenshots and would only use a fraction for the eventual summaries and even then these would only cover the key events and not evey unit and I would often have to go back to the saves to get some I missed (mainly for before and after shots). So it takes a lot of time and generates a lot of big files. How big is your inbox? It would soon overflow with the original resolution screenshots and if you want them re-sized and reduced in resolution to make them smaller that will take even more time. I no longer have the original resolution screenshots I took, but it was over 50 per chat (up to 100 in a really eventful chat with lots of attacks and city captures) and each pic would be 300-400 kB. The final set I used for the summaries (considerably less than you are asking for) were generally 4-5 MB with one turn chat just exceeding 10 MB (but it took a lot of work to do that).

In short, your're not going to get what you asked for. Your best bet is to asked for saves every turn, you're more likely to get that.

But saying that we have not in general had enough detail in the turnchat reports. It is very difficult to report accurately the details of the battles in the inbetween - you can't stop it and if you look away to write it down you miss something, so Provo did well to get the battle details he got. When we get battles ourselves then I would expect details such as: 4/4 Knight v 3/3 pike - loses, Pike now 2/4 and replaced by new 3/3 Pike. We also need to know our unit movements, although as we get more this will become more difficult to report in detail, but for now we should know what all our explorers are doing and anything interesting they see, and where newly built units go.

It's not a simple task to accurately report all this information as DP and takes a lot of time. That's why turnchats are so long!

 

[Donovan Zoi]

When I was DPing I saved every turn at the end of the turn just in case I had PC crash problems, sometimes at the beginning/part way through as well depending on how paranoid I got. I also took a lot of screenshots and would only use a fraction for the eventual summaries and even then these would only cover the key events and not evey unit and I would often have to go back to the saves to get some I missed (mainly for before and after shots). So it takes a lot of time and generates a lot of big files. How big is your inbox? It would soon overflow with the original resolution screenshots and if you want them re-sized and reduced in resolution to make them smaller that will take even more time. I no longer have the original resolution screenshots I took, but it was over 50 per chat (up to 100 in a really eventful chat with lots of attacks and city captures) and each pic would be 300-400 kB. The final set I used for the summaries (considerably less than you are asking for) were generally 4-5 MB with one turn chat just exceeding 10 MB (but it took a lot of work to do that).

In short, your're not going to get what you asked for. Your best bet is to asked for saves every turn, you're more likely to get that.

But saying that we have not in general had enough detail in the turnchat reports. It is very difficult to report accurately the details of the battles in the inbetween - you can't stop it and if you look away to write it down you miss something, so Provo did well to get the battle details he got. When we get battles ourselves then I would expect details such as: 4/4 Knight v 3/3 pike - loses, Pike now 2/4 and replaced by new 3/3 Pike. We also need to know our unit movements, although as we get more this will become more difficult to report in detail, but for now we should know what all our explorers are doing and anything interesting they see, and where newly built units go.

It's not a simple task to accurately report all this information as DP and takes a lot of time. That's why turnchats are so long!

I concur with Furiey. There is definitely a need for more game session information, but how much is too much?

I would like to thank Ranger99 from brining this dilemma to the front. Having accurate and accessible information is one of the goals of my administration, so I will be starting a new thread on it shortly.

 

[Ranger99]

Ahh....I guess you're all right....

I'd like to know more about Civassist now I need to see what our military is doing most of the time....

As for screenshots, try to get them in important areas at least, or what you THINK will be important areas.

For example; In the FA Discussion, MILITARY thread, I posted a beginning sketch of possible operations against Germany. It would be nice to see these units enroute to their objectives and while they're fighting for their objectives.

You're also right about taking the time to right stuff down...That's obviously tough as well...But I must thank Provolutionn for his excellent acount of the Siege of Leipzig, that gives me a relative idea about what our 'maybe allies' have in the area, or at least to Spearhead theri assault into Germany. Thank you for that, (And excellent work on placing the Mountian Sentry)

Any simple improvement on our Military recordings will be fine, Thanks!

-Ranger99-